As if you forgot, right? Today, the real next generation in gaming begins, with the release of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 as the first in the desktop Ampere architecture.
Need a reminder of just how ridiculous and powerful the RTX 3080 is? Here's some specs:
GEFORCE RTX 3080 | |
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NVIDIA CUDA® Cores | 8704 |
Boost Clock (GHz) | 1.71 |
Standard Memory Config | 10 GB GDDR6X |
Memory Interface Width | 320-bit |
Ray Tracing Cores | 2nd Generation |
Tensor Cores | 3rd Generation |
Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) | 93 |
Graphics Card Power (W) | 320 |
Recommended System Power (W) (2) | 750 |
Supplementary Power Connectors | 2x PCIe 8-pin |
Additional details: they will support the latest Vulkan, OpenGL 4.6, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, HDCP 2.3, PCI Express 4 and support for the AV1 codec.
Stock is expected to be quite limited, especially since they did no pre-ordering and stores will likely sell out quite quickly. Even so, here's a few places where you might be able to grab one. Some of the sites are under quite a heavy load too due to high traffic, so prepare to wait a bit. I've seen plenty of "website not available" issues today while waiting to get links.
UK
USA
Feel free to comment with more and we can add them in.
Driver Support
Along with the release, NVIDIA also put out a brand new Linux driver with 455.23.04. This is a Beta driver, so there may be some rough edges they still need to iron out. It brings in support for the RTX 3080, RTX 3090 and the MX450.
On top of new GPU support, it also has a bunch of fixes and improvements including support for device-local VkMemoryType, which NVIDIA said can boost performance with DiRT Rally 2.0, DOOM: Eternal and World of Warcraft with DXVK and Steam Play. Red Dead Redemption 2 with Steam Play should also see a bug fix that was causing excessive CPU use.
The VDPAU driver also expanded with support for decoding VP9 10- and 12-bit bitstreams, although it doesn't support 10- and 12-bit video surfaces yet. NVIDIA also updated Base Mosaic support on GeForce to allow a maximum of five simultaneous displays, rather than three. For PRIME users, there's also some great sounding fixes included too so you should see a smoother experience there.
Some bits were removed for SLI too like "SFR", "AFR", and "AA" modes but SLI Mosaic, Base Mosaic, GL_NV_gpu_multicast, and GLX_NV_multigpu_context are still supported. There's also plenty of other bug fixes.
What's next?
Today is only the start, with the RTX 3090 going up on September 24 and the RTX 3070 later in October. There's also been a leak (as always) of a RTX 3060 Ti which is also due to arrive in October. Based on the leak the upcoming RTX 3060 Ti will have 4864 CUDA cores, 8GB GDDR6 (no X) memory clocked at 14Gbps with a memory bandwidth of 447Gbps which means even the 3060 is going to kick-butt.
Are you going for Ampere, sticking with what you have or waiting on the upcoming AMD RDNA 2 announcements? Do let us know in the comments.
Quoting: CatKillerQuoting: bisbyxI want to agree with you. But for people who dont care about nvidia vs AMD. For $700 in 1.5 months, AMD is not going to go roll out something noticeably faster than the 3080. They might roll something out at $700 but the same speed, or they might roll something out 20% faster than 3080... but costs more.
And at that point, you've just waited 1.5 months to get something that is roughly equal.
The reason it's sensible to wait isn't because you're necessarily expecting AMD to release something that will blow Ampere away.
I don't regret my purchase of a 2080 Ti in the slightest: I've had two years of excellent gaming performance, and I'll likely have several more. But if, at the time, AMD had anything to offer that was in the same ballpark, or even competitive with the 1080 Ti, it would likely have been a darn sight cheaper.
In a couple of months' time, if AMD can show that they're in the game, perhaps Nvidia will slash prices, or perhaps they'll release Ti versions. It's worth waiting even if you're planning to get an Nvidia card.
Thank you. This was *exactly* my point. :)
Quoting: BreezeQuoting: bisbyxFor $700 in 1.5 months, AMD is not going to go roll out something noticeably faster than the 3080.At $700, I don't care about +/- $50.
n.B. Now compare that to people arguing how 1 % Linux share (in Steam) must be still SO important to devs and Valve BECAUSE OF THE ABSOLUTE AMOUNT!
Quoting: vipor29yep and its out of stock which should be no suprise to anyone.people are offloading them on ebay and making bank for sure.The cards that were showing at £649.99 on UK sites are now all over £700 on pre-order, so no surprise there.
Quoting: The_AquabatQuoting: bisbyxcompared the 3070 to the 2080ti, then compared the 3080 to the 2080 (non super). They primed your brain so when you hear "twice as fast" you think "twice as fast as the 2080ti"... Even though 25% faster than the 2080ti is exactly what their graph (shown in the article) roughly says.
interesting I didn't notice the 2080ti at first glance they put it like in furthest part of the graph another marketing technique here??
That is just a consequence of 2080ti's price. For the marketing trick you need to be at the other side of the graph. I'll leave it for you to discover; it's quite subtle.
Quoting: emphyYou mean how the price axis starts at $200?Quoting: The_AquabatQuoting: bisbyxcompared the 3070 to the 2080ti, then compared the 3080 to the 2080 (non super). They primed your brain so when you hear "twice as fast" you think "twice as fast as the 2080ti"... Even though 25% faster than the 2080ti is exactly what their graph (shown in the article) roughly says.
interesting I didn't notice the 2080ti at first glance they put it like in furthest part of the graph another marketing technique here??
That is just a consequence of 2080ti's price. For the marketing trick you need to be at the other side of the graph. I'll leave it for you to discover; it's quite subtle.
Quoting: emphyThat is just a consequence of 2080ti's price. For the marketing trick you need to be at the other side of the graph. I'll leave it for you to discover; it's quite subtle.
More over that: somehow people believe that Nvidia GPUs prices were reduced... while the true is that they just kept the same price per tier.
Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: The_AquabatIf you make such a bold claim like twice performance, you have to prove it.
I knew from the start that 2x improvement claim was just marketing. It simply sounded unrealistic.
Quoting: The_AquabatSo I expect Big Navi to score some wins at least on compute tasks, and maybe some games optimized for AMD, and it is definitely not even close to "dead on arrival"
Regarding AMD, they gave projected improvements in their RDNA 2 slides and I don't expect it to be far off:
That's for performance per watt. What's not known yet, is how powerful their highest end card will be using that improvement and whatever amount of compute units they'll put in it. It could be quite a leap from 5700XT.
Question:
The RX 5600 xt supports Radeon Rays (AMD raytracing)... What's the state of it, on Linux?
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Quoting: MohandevirQuoting: ShmerlQuoting: The_AquabatIf you make such a bold claim like twice performance, you have to prove it.
I knew from the start that 2x improvement claim was just marketing. It simply sounded unrealistic.
Quoting: The_AquabatSo I expect Big Navi to score some wins at least on compute tasks, and maybe some games optimized for AMD, and it is definitely not even close to "dead on arrival"
Regarding AMD, they gave projected improvements in their RDNA 2 slides and I don't expect it to be far off:
That's for performance per watt. What's not known yet, is how powerful their highest end card will be using that improvement and whatever amount of compute units they'll put in it. It could be quite a leap from 5700XT.
Question:
The RX 5600 xt supports Radeon Rays (AMD raytracing)... What's the state of it, on Linux?
No it don't, not on a hardware level.
Quoting: pete910Quoting: MohandevirQuoting: ShmerlQuoting: The_AquabatIf you make such a bold claim like twice performance, you have to prove it.
I knew from the start that 2x improvement claim was just marketing. It simply sounded unrealistic.
Quoting: The_AquabatSo I expect Big Navi to score some wins at least on compute tasks, and maybe some games optimized for AMD, and it is definitely not even close to "dead on arrival"
Regarding AMD, they gave projected improvements in their RDNA 2 slides and I don't expect it to be far off:
That's for performance per watt. What's not known yet, is how powerful their highest end card will be using that improvement and whatever amount of compute units they'll put in it. It could be quite a leap from 5700XT.
Question:
The RX 5600 xt supports Radeon Rays (AMD raytracing)... What's the state of it, on Linux?
No it don't, not on a hardware level.
Aaaaah! Radeon Rays Audio... What the...?!
Ok! Sorry then.
Last edited by Mohandevir on 18 September 2020 at 5:45 pm UTC
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