Today AMD revealed the Zen 3 CPU architecture along with the Ryzen 5000 series, with quite a big focus in single-threaded performance as they continue to fight Intel.
Jumping over the Ryzen 4000 series as expected, AMD has come out swinging as they've announced four processors in the Ryzen 5000 series. All of which will be available on November 5 so there's less than a month until you can get your hands on them.
As expected, they're going to be powerful too, with AMD claiming this being their biggest increase in IPC (instructions per cycle/clock) resulting in strong single-thread performance for those games that stick loads into a main thread. For gamers, these are going to be very competitive to Intel. AMD claimed a "19%" IPC increase compared with their previous generation of Zen. On top of that, they're claiming a big win on latency reduction between core and cache communication.
Above you can see the Ryzen 5900X, Ryzen 5800X and the Ryzen 5600X. However, they had another surprise which is their new top-end Ryzen 5950X which is something of a monster.
AMD's Mark Papermaster confirmed Ryzen 5000 is using the same 7nm node as before, however it is using a new core layout and new cache topology with design improvements "across all of the CPU components". Papermaster mentioned this new layout brings all of the cores onto "A unified 8-core complex, that accelerates core to core communication that's especially helpful to gaming workloads. That consolidation actually allows every core to directly access the 32MB of L3 cache, that dramatically accelerates workloads that are latency sensitive like gaming".
What will all that actually translate into when it comes to real-world performance? Well benchmarks will find out soon enough with the November 5 launch.
Here's the main specs sheet to make it easy for you:
MODEL | CORES/ THREADS |
TDP (Watts) |
BOOST9/BASE FREQ. (GHz) |
TOTAL CACHE |
COOLER | SEP (USD) |
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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | 16C/32T | 105W | Up to 4.9 / 3.4 | 72MB | N/A | $799 | |
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | 12C/24T | 105W | Up to 4.8 / 3.7 | 70MB | N/A | $549 | |
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | 8C/16T | 105W | Up to 4.7 / 3.8 | 36MB | N/A | $449 | |
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | 6C/12T | 65W | Up to 4.6 / 3.7 | 35MB | Wraith Stealth | $299 |
When it comes to motherboard chipset compatibility, AMD explained the AMD 500 series are ready for the Ryzen 5000 series but they will need a "simple" BIOS upgrade.
You can watch the whole event right here with our embed below (or on the AMD website):
Direct Link
Looking to the future, Zen 4 was given a brief mention that it's still in the design phase and they've had multiple teams working at the same time to ensure they can keep doing new generations. Zen 4, going by the imagery shown during the event, is due before or during 2022 and that will be moving to a 5nm process.
AMD also teased out the AMD Radeon 6000 which they "affectionately call" Big Navi that seems to have stuck as a nickname now. They're saying it's the "most powerful gaming GPU we have ever built", well of course they would say that.
We will get more information for the AMD Radeon 6000 series on October 28 with their next planned event. Update: see more on the Radeon 6000 series in this later article.
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Last edited by Shmerl on 8 October 2020 at 4:41 pm UTC
In the meantime before Big Navi I might downgrade to a RX 560 4GB I have lying around as the Radeon VII is still selling for $800 on eBay. I've never made a hundred dollars on a used GPU.
Upcoming GPUs on the other hand is something I'm looking forward to.
Last edited by Shmerl on 8 October 2020 at 5:06 pm UTC
Last edited by Keyrock on 8 October 2020 at 5:11 pm UTC
Aren't they also making newer motherboards for Zen 3?I read an article yesterday saying not until Zen 3+ as the 500 series boards were designed for Zen 3.
I _really_ wait for their Radeons as I'm sittig on my GF1060 (GP106) and I am waiting for an update there (Raytracing included....). So, please, AMD, put your efforts in there ;-)
I read an article yesterday saying not until Zen 3+ as the 500 series boards were designed for Zen 3.
Good to know, thanks.
Still here with my 9 3900X - not that it feels old, but "Single Thread performance" might be the killer over Intel
May be it's just me, but I didn't have any issues with single thread performance of 3900X. I wouldn't mind a better CPU, but to pay $550 for that is a lot. Plus modern games today are multithreaded, so single thread performance for gaming is not as critical anymore.
If I can sell 3900X for a good price, then may be getting newer one is better, but that would leave me without any CPU for some time.
Last edited by Shmerl on 8 October 2020 at 5:48 pm UTC
Last edited by mrdeathjr on 8 October 2020 at 6:56 pm UTC
That "simple BIOS upgrade" is going to be not so simple for newcomers to AMD unless the motherboards allow for a BIOS upgrade without CPU.
I think Asrock motherboards do. See also: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100
AMD offers special processor loan kit for some of such cases when motherboard doesn't have USB update feature.
Last edited by Shmerl on 8 October 2020 at 7:39 pm UTC
That "simple BIOS upgrade" is going to be not so simple for newcomers to AMD unless the motherboards allow for a BIOS upgrade without CPU.
I think Asrock motherboards do. See also: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100
AMD offers special processor loan kit for some of such cases when motherboard doesn't have USB update feature.
The Gigabyte ones I've been checking out (Aorus X570 Pro/Ultra/Master/Extreme) also come with that feature as does the ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII.
I think Zen 3 are great CPUs, but for those who already have high end Zen 2 ones, the improvement probably won't be worth the price. I might skip it and wait for DDR5 memory to come out before doing major CPU upgrade.
Upcoming GPUs on the other hand is something I'm looking forward to.
I have a Ryzen 7 2700 and honestly i dont see reason for upgrading now. I havent seen a game that made my CPU suffer
Jumping to a 5900x from a 3900x should just be the most enthusiats about performance but for the rest of the people there is no need to change CPUs this often
I have a Ryzen 7 2700 and honestly i dont see reason for upgrading now. I havent seen a game that made my CPU suffer
Same, CPU was never a bottleneck for me with 3900X.
Last edited by Shmerl on 8 October 2020 at 8:06 pm UTC
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