It's genuinely amazing that it's taken Google, a company that runs an entire platform dedicated to video (YouTube), almost an entire year to get their message clear on Stadia.
Originally known as Project Stream, the game streaming service Stadia released to Founders originally back in November 2019. At the time you had to have access to Stadia Pro to do anything with it, which is a monthly subscription to get access to free games and 4K output. It took until April 2020 for the service to become open to everyone, countries supported permitting, and since then so many videos and articles have been released that didn't understand the service and how you use it. People continuously gave out wrong information on, saying it required a monthly fee but across the entire time you could stop paying for Stadia Pro and simply use Stadia as a normal store.
It's amazing then, that it's taken until October 5 2020 for Google to release a proper advertisement (below) to explain it in simple terms.
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In other Stadia news Google recently rolled out a few nice new features. If you have a USB-C headset, you can now use that with the official Stadia Controller and it works across the web browser and Chromecast. They also added Tandem Mode, which lets you connect up another controller to your Stadia Controller's USB-C port — a pretty clever way to handle more local co-op play.
Want to hear more of our thoughts on Stadia and game streaming in general? We covered it in our recent Co-Op News Punch podcast. We also have a forum dedicated to Game Streaming.
You can play Stadia on Linux in a Chrome / Chromium browser at Stadia.com.
Worse, though, is the service model. They say it's like streaming movies or music, but they're not being wholly truthful there. I subscribe to Netflix and all of their movies and TV shows are available to be to stream. I don't have any of this "you get Pro-movies every month and you can purchase non-pro movies to add to your collection". Googles own "movies" service, where I ~DO~ buy each individual movie and TV show season separately at least has the decency of NOT charging me for the service. Amazon Prime's streaming service is the only video streaming service that seems to come close to what Stadia is trying to pull, but even then, at least Prime includes their free 2-day shipping, which, given how much I, at least, get from Amazon on a yearly basis, makes up for the price of the service on its own.
So, here's Stadia... Pay monthly for the service in which they will generously give you a few games... which are probably the games that don't make much money in the first place... then buy the actual games you want to play, shell out a shiz ton of money for an internet connection that can (close to) stably stream those games, all while crossing your fingers that after all that financial investment, Google doesn't drop Stadia like so many of their other services.
I think, if you're going to call yourself the Netflix of video games (and, to be fair, I can't recall if Google themselves ever actually did), then at least use their model... monthly cost for the service, but FULL access to their ENTIRE game library.
That's my opinion anyway... and I'm old and crotchety
Quoting: ObsidianBlkThey say it's like streaming movies or music, but they're not being wholly truthful there.Depends how you take it, speaking technically they are correct and this is an advert for the masses not for deeper technical stuff.
Quoting: ObsidianBlkat least has the decency of NOT charging me for the serviceYou're not charged to use Stadia either though. So it does work the same as what you're comparing it to on their movie/tv purchases through the Play store.
From the rest of your post, it seems pretty clear you still think you have to pay for it. You do not, they even say in the video you get a free trial of Stadia Pro when you sign up and then you can just use the service as normal if you cancel it.
Quoting: ObsidianBlkshell out a shiz ton of money for an internet connection that can (close to) stably stream those gamesI regularly play it across WiFi on the opposite side of my house to where the router is, where I get about ~36mb/s and it is without issues.
Quoting: ObsidianBlkI think, if you're going to call yourself the Netflix of video games (and, to be fair, I can't recall if Google themselves ever actually did)They have never once said that, and they actually said somewhere (can't find where) not to think of it like Netflix. Edit: found it. As they said, Stadia Pro mirrors PS Plus on the PlayStation - get access to a growing collection of titles and extra discounts to buy games.
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Quoting: Liam DaweDepends how you take it, speaking technically they are correct and this is an advert for the masses not for deeper technical stuff.Yeah... but didn't Obi Wan make that same "certain point of view" remark when caught out on his "Vader murdered your father" statement? Audiences called BS on Obi Wan, I still kinda call BS on Google.
Quoting: Liam DaweYou're not charged to use Stadia either though. So it does work the same as what you're comparing it to on their movie/tv purchases through the Play store.Ok... fair enough. In my defense, though, their website is not exactly clear on that. I kept reading "Build a library of games that you can access as long as you’re a Stadia Pro subscriber." and it took me a couple rereads before I linked that statement to them referring to a library built from "free" games.
From the rest of your post, it seems pretty clear you still think you have to pay for it. You do not, they even say in the video you get a free trial of Stadia Pro when you sign up and then you can just use the service as normal if you cancel it.
Also... (and maybe I missed this too), it would be really nice if they had a little chart that shows what you get as a pro vs free member.
Also, also... what if I like the "free" games? Can I buy and play them as a free member or they exclusive to pro members only? I keep looking over the site and I'm not seeing any information on that. I suppose I'd find out if I "signed up", but I don't want to sign up for a service just to answer questions I have about the service.
Quoting: Liam DaweI regularly play it across WiFi on the opposite side of my house to where the router is, where I get about ~36mb/s and it is without issues.Again... fair enough. How is it over cellular internet? They are pushing mobile devices too, and 5G isn't exactly ubiquitous at the moment.
Quoting: Liam DaweAs they said, Stadia Pro mirrors PS Plus on the PlayStation - get access to a growing collection of titles and extra discounts to buy games.Forgive me if I'm confused, but, PS Plus...
Are you talking the the monthly charge I pay Sony for being able to play my games online and they give me two free games a month? If so, one difference is those free games are free free. Once I nab them, they're still mine if I quit the service. Stadia on the other hand does say, of their free games "Build a library of games that you can access as long as you’re a Stadia Pro subscriber." which suggests Stadia is not exactly the same.
Or, are you talking about the service Sony has ON TOP of the one above where you can stream games?
There is one annoying thing: the need to relog to Steam at each session and the keyboard is QWERTY but it allow to play games that dosen't run fine with Proton.
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Quoting: ObsidianBlkOk... fair enough. In my defense, though, their website is not exactly clear on that.Yeah, their actual website and frankly the store itself is still pretty rubbish right now, they have a lot of work to do to clear all that up. The store doesn't even have a search bar yet...
Quoting: ObsidianBlkAre you talking the the monthly charge I pay Sony for being able to play my games online and they give me two free games a month? If so, one difference is those free games are free free. Once I nab them, they're still mine if I quit the service.Uh no, if you leave PS Plus, you will not be able to play the PS Plus redeemed games. It's always been that way. Stadia Pro is the same, get access while you have it, then get it back if you resume it after cancelling.
Quoting: ObsidianBlkAgain... fair enough. How is it over cellular internet? They are pushing mobile devices too, and 5G isn't exactly ubiquitous at the moment.That I don't know, I only have 4G and a data cap there so I don't dare do it over mobile net.
Quoting: haikuFor now i enjoy GeForce NOW, it's cheap and doesn't require a proprietary gamepad.You only need the Stadia Controller if you're using a Chromecast Ultra. Otherwise, as the video says, anything else.
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Quoting: Liam DaweUh no, if you leave PS Plus, you will not be able to play the PS Plus redeemed games. It's always been that way. Stadia Pro is the same, get access while you have it, then get it back if you resume it after cancelling.0_0 ... yeah... you're absolutely right! I have died a little today. Thank you
Quoting: Liam DaweYou only need the Stadia Controller if you're using a Chromecast Ultra. Otherwise, as the video says, anything else.I shall give it a try but it cannot link with Steam Library
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The ad was cool but like others online are saying they should be promoting the free console aspect of it? IDK, I just really enjoying it and I did not expect to be.
Edit - I'm very curious how the games in Pro make money? Liam did you cover this already and I missed it or can ya?
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