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4A Games have confirmed in an official 10th anniversary update post today that Metro Exodus is still going to release for Linux and macOS as well.

They gave a small overview in the post about what's been going on like celebrating the first release of Metro 2033 which arrived back in March 2010. Not only that, they recently got acquired by Embracer Group who also control Koch Media, Saber Interactive, THQ Nordic and others. Specifically, 4A Games are now an independently run subsidiary of Saber Interactive.

For people waiting on official Linux support for Metro Exodus, there's good news. While it has been confirmed for a while now, they have been somewhat quiet on it. When mentioning about bringing it to the latest consoles with the Xbox Series X and the PlayStation 5 they also said this:

Aside from these enhanced versions for Gen 9, we recently brought Metro Exodus to more players through Amazon’s ‘Luna’ streaming service; and we’re also working on dedicated Linux* and Mac versions of the game. We’ll share more information about these closer to release.

*Emphasis ours.

Also confirmed is a new Metro game that is officially under development. They're not sharing anything on that, other than it being built for all modern tech as it's targeting PCs and the latest consoles. 4A also confirmed their commitment to "delivering a great story driven single player experience". On top of that, with Saber's help they're exploring a proper multiplayer Metro title but it's not clear if it will be part of the next Metro game or a title by itself.

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Rooster Nov 27, 2020
Quoting: Shmerl"Wine is not an emulator" is a half joke. Not only Wine emulates Windows, it can even emulate x86 on ARM (hardware emulation for the win!) to run Windows programs on Android for example. So not sure what's the point to waste time on arguing about it.

It doesn't emulate Windows. It translates Windows system calls into POSIX-compliant system calls.

The point for end user is this:

Emulator - always a significant performance decrease when compared to the real thing
Wine - Usually the performance decrease when compared to the real thing is insignificant, sometimes even non-existent.
Shmerl Nov 27, 2020
Quoting: RoosterIt doesn't emulate Windows. It translates Windows system calls into POSIX-compliant system calls.

Which I have no problem calling emulating Windows API.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emulation
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emulation
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/emulation

Your expectation that the word emulation has a narrow meaning of hardware emulation is unfounded.


Last edited by Shmerl on 27 November 2020 at 7:56 am UTC
Rooster Nov 27, 2020
Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: RoosterIt doesn't emulate Windows. It translates Windows system calls into POSIX-compliant system calls.

Which I have no problem calling emulating Windows API.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/emulation
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emulation
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/emulation

Your expectation that the word emulation has a narrow meaning of hardware emulation is unfounded.

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/what-are-system-calls-in-operating-system

Look at the table on this website. That's Wine in its simplest, very simplified form. All you need to do is slap one function which calls the Linux equivalent whenever there is a Windows system call in the code. Would you call that an emulation?
Shmerl Nov 27, 2020
Sure. I'd call it emulation. Synonym - copy, imitate, mimic, behave like.

Wine tries to behave like Windows (copies Windows behavior for the program). It does that translating the calls sure, but it still copies Windows behavior = emulates Windows.


Last edited by Shmerl on 27 November 2020 at 8:22 am UTC
Rooster Nov 27, 2020
Quoting: ShmerlSure. I'd call it emulation. Synonym - copy, imitate, mimic, behave like.

Wine tries to behave like Windows (copies Windows behavior for the program). It does that translating the calls sure, but it still copies Windows behavior = emulates Windows.

Okay, I think I'm starting to understand you now.

But then using your understanding of an emulator, what I wrote before:

QuoteEmulator - always a significant performance decrease when compared to the real thing
Wine - Usually the performance decrease when compared to the real thing is insignificant, sometimes even non-existent.

Becomes this:

Emulator - performance decrease (or possibly even increase) depends on the implementation
Wine - Usually the performance decrease when compared to the real thing is insignificant, sometimes even non-existent.
Shmerl Nov 27, 2020
Yeah. Whether emulator decreases performance or not is inconsequential. May be your method of emulation is so efficient, that it makes it even faster than the original. Emulation itself doesn't imply any performance specifics. It just refers to the copying of behavior.


Last edited by Shmerl on 27 November 2020 at 9:10 am UTC
scaine Nov 27, 2020
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I should have known better to raise the emulator thing on GOL...

So, just so we're clear:
  • Spectrum was better than C64

  • Atari ST was better than Amiga

  • Sega Megadrive was better than the Nintendo SNES

  • GIMP is a stupid name that detracts from its professional image

  • Ubuntu Unity was among the best DE's in existence

  • Window buttons should be on the right side of the window decoration

  • vi is cursed - just use nano

  • AMD is superior to Nvidia (on Linux)

  • PC does not mean Windows

  • Wine is an emulator for the vast, vast majority of people


Glad I got all that off my chest. And it's Friday! Roll on the weekend. Have a good one, everyone!
Rooster Nov 27, 2020
Quoting: ShmerlYeah. Whether emulator decreases performance or not is inconsequential. May be your method of emulation is so efficient, that it makes it even faster than the original. Emulation itself doesn't imply any performance specifics. It just refers to the copying of behavior.

Problem is, for most people the word emulator invokes performance decrease. That's why the meaning of what Wine stands for was changed from Windows Emulator to Wine Is Not an Emulator and nowadays, terms like compatibility layer or wrapper are used instead. Unfortunatelly, it's another case of peoples incorect understanding of certain term causing the neccesity to create new terms, but well.. what can you do.
Rooster Nov 27, 2020
Quoting: scaineI should have known better to raise the emulator thing on GOL...

So, just so we're clear:
  • Spectrum was better than C64

  • Atari ST was better than Amiga

  • Sega Megadrive was better than the Nintendo SNES

  • GIMP is a stupid name that detracts from its professional image

  • Ubuntu Unity was among the best DE's in existence

  • Window buttons should be on the right side of the window decoration

  • vi is cursed - just use nano

  • AMD is superior to Nvidia (on Linux)

  • PC does not mean Windows

  • Wine is an emulator for the vast, vast majority of people


Glad I got all that off my chest. And it's Friday! Roll on the weekend. Have a good one, everyone!

Heh. You think that's bad? Watch this:

Just so we're clear:
  • Buying games that work in Proton while also financially supporting Godot is waaay better for Linux gaming than buying only native games.


Have a great weekend, everyone


Last edited by Rooster on 27 November 2020 at 9:41 am UTC
scaine Nov 27, 2020
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Is that contentious though??

I support Godot, Wine AND a tiny handful of indie developers for that very reason! I also support Icculus and it annoys me no end that Ethan Lee only allows GitHub payments, or I'd be throwing him $5 a month too. My Patreon bill is nearly as high as my TV bill these days!!


Last edited by scaine on 27 November 2020 at 10:28 am UTC
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