The classic Driver 2 has a new reverse engineered open source game engine

I loved the original Driver on PS1, great fun. Looking forward to playing this.

i played driver 1, i did knew that there were other driver games (eg: San Francisco), but never heard of driver 2.

i wonder why its easier to reverse enginering an game than making an free open source alternative to it...
it shouldnt be

This reminds me that I never finished the tutorial on Driver 1... lol

I played San Francisco which is a good game, but it's boring

Quoting: elmapuli wonder why its easier to reverse enginering an game than making an free open source alternative to it...
it shouldnt be

Actually no. Making an engine for an existing game is much easier. You have a fixed target and all the art assets are already done.

Quoting: elmapuli wonder why its easier to reverse enginering an game than making an free open source alternative to it...
it shouldnt be

Traditionally for game makers, about half the budget goes to marketing. Asset creation is almost all of the rest. Making the game engine, while both critical and often difficult, is only a small part of the whole. Content is also difficult to do incrementally: you need your story to happen in the right order, and you want all of your artwork to look good before people see it.

Well, only really if the data structures and formats are known or closely based known formats, otherwise a huge amount of time will be wasted on reverse engineering that. I wonder how much they had to figure out without specifications.
Regarding asset creation, there seem to be a lot of highly talented freelancers out there (thinking of all the elder scroll mods) who would be capable of competing easily with high end titles. But why would a team like that not ask for money instead? ;-)

I've always assumed there to be quite a different challenge, possibly a different mindset, between a reverse engineering project and creating your own game from scratch.

I kinda get it. It's somewhere between deciphering ancient hieroglyphs and restoring an old barn find. Plus the opportunity to study an old favorite from a whole new perspective, learning new things about the game, and possibly the minds who created it.

Anyhow, that's a pretty slick trailer! Makes me want to get out there, steal Eleanor and try some Halicki stunts!

Quoting: fagnerlnThis reminds me that I never finished the tutorial on Driver 1... lol

I played San Francisco which is a good game, but it's boring

Holy shit, that MANDATORY tutorial was so difficult. It didn't help that there were no real instructions on how to perform the required stunts to get past the tutorial within the time limit. It got fun after that...

Oh sweeeeet! This is amazing, I love Driver series!

Ooh, I've a lot of fond memories of this. In fact, it's one of the few 20-ish-year-old games I do have any genuine nostalgia for, because I didn't play most of the big names until much later.* It was the first game where I felt like I was really travelling the world. I'm sure the depictions of the real-world cities weren't remotely accurate, but they were closer than we'd ever seen before.

It's also worth pointing out that this is a free-roam, open-world game that came out before GTA3 (its big “thing” was that, unlike the first game, Tanner could walk around outside his car and steal other ones). A lot of people saw GTA3 as DMA/Rockstar's answer to Driver 2.

Quoting: fagnerlnI played San Francisco which is a good game, but it's boring

That's the trouble, of course: a true sequel would basically be GTA in real-world locations with more driving and no gunplay. Which doesn't sound like much fun. The two series seemed very alike back in the day, but Rockstar clearly had the more engaging formula, concentrating on the on-foot side with the cars coming second.

When Ubisoft decided to bring Driver back, to give them their due they did try to mix it up and do something different, which, yeah, made a decent enough game, but it ended up being neither very interesting or recognisably Driver.

*I took something of a sabbatical from gaming in the '90s, but when a friend of mine upgraded to the PlayStation 2, he very generously passed his PS1 to me. Since this game came out at the very tail end of that console's life I was able to play it pretty soon after release.

Any Linux build up yet? I have the original disks, but the release in GH is only an .exe. Would like a native build!

Quoting: ronnocAny Linux build up yet? I have the original disks, but the release in GH is only an .exe. Would like a native build!

I'm trying, but I doubt anyone has built it on anything but Windows? There's a an unguarded "#include "windows.h" in one place, and lot and lots of little things that seems to trip up gcc on my system but presumably works fine in VS.

Quoting: whizse

Quoting: ronnocAny Linux build up yet? I have the original disks, but the release in GH is only an .exe. Would like a native build!

I'm trying, but I doubt anyone has built it on anything but Windows? There's a an unguarded "#include "windows.h" in one place, and lot and lots of little things that seems to trip up gcc on my system but presumably works fine in VS.

I fixed it, see https://github.com/OpenDriver2/REDRIVER2/pull/24

if you want to build it for yourself, execute the following:

git clone https://github.com/OpenDriver2/REDRIVER2
cd REDRIVER2
curl https://patch-diff.githubusercontent.com/raw/OpenDriver2/REDRIVER2/pull/24.patch -LO
patch -p1 < 24.patch
cd src_rebuild
premake5 gmake
make -j4

then check "Bin/Debug" for the executable

Quoting: ronnocAny Linux build up yet? I have the original disks, but the release in GH is only an .exe. Would like a native build!

Patch to make it compile, and also amazingly link:
https://pastebin.com/iyGdgzwx

Also, it uses premake5 of all things. I mean an alpha build? Come on!

Build instructions goes like:

Install/build premake5
cd src_rebuild
premake5 gmake
make
fun stuff in bin/Debug/

Quoting: Rosalie[snipped long post]

Dang! Beaten by 18 minutes, and a much cleaner patch too!

Music and video clips needs to be manually converted using a Java tool called jPSXdec. Music seems to work, but videos had a couple of issues, case (insensitivity), and of course the dir separator.

Quick patch below. I assume C++ have a rich standard library with something to do proper path concatenation, but I'm too lazy to find out.

There are a lot of different ways to have fun with games!

 
diff --git a/src_rebuild/GAME/C/SYSTEM.C b/src_rebuild/GAME/C/SYSTEM.C
index 6b8710a..e3f96dd 100644
--- a/src_rebuild/GAME/C/SYSTEM.C
+++ b/src_rebuild/GAME/C/SYSTEM.C
@@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ OTTYPE* _OT2 = NULL;                          // 0xF7200
 char* _primTab1 = NULL;                        // 0xFB400
 char* _primTab2 = NULL;                        // 0x119400
 char* _replay_buffer = NULL;           // 0x1FABBC
-char gDataFolder[32] = "DRIVER2\\";
+char gDataFolder[32] = "DRIVER2/";
 
 #ifdef USE_CRT_MALLOC
 
diff --git a/src_rebuild/utils/video_source/VideoPlayer.cpp b/src_rebuild/utils/video_source/VideoPlayer.cpp
index 4fd478d..c8b598c 100644
--- a/src_rebuild/utils/video_source/VideoPlayer.cpp
+++ b/src_rebuild/utils/video_source/VideoPlayer.cpp
@@ -604,14 +604,14 @@ void DoPlayFMV(RENDER_ARG* arg, int subtitles)
                fd /= 10;
 
        char filename[250];
-       sprintf(filename, "%sFMV\\%d\\RENDER%d.STR[0].AVI", gDataFolder, fd, arg->render);
+       sprintf(filename, "%sFMV/%d/RENDER%d.STR[0].avi", gDataFolder, fd, arg->render);
 
        ReadAVI readAVI(filename);
        
        // also load subtitle file
        if (subtitles)
        {
-               sprintf(filename, "%sFMV\\%d\\RENDER%d.SBN", gDataFolder, fd, arg->render);
+               sprintf(filename, "%sFMV/%d/RENDER%d.SBN", gDataFolder, fd, arg->render);
                InitSubtitles(filename);
        }
        else
@@ -621,7 +621,7 @@ void DoPlayFMV(RENDER_ARG* arg, int subtitles)
 
        if(arg->credits)
        {
-               sprintf(filename, "%sDATA\\CREDITS.ENG", gDataFolder);
+               sprintf(filename, "%sDATA/CREDITS.ENG", gDataFolder);
                InitCredits(filename);
        }
 

Quoting: DuncOoh, I've a lot of fond memories of this. In fact, it's one of the few 20-ish-year-old games I do have any genuine nostalgia for, because I didn't play most of the big names until much later.* It was the first game where I felt like I was really travelling the world. I'm sure the depictions of the real-world cities weren't remotely accurate, but they were closer than we'd ever seen before.

My first experience with this feeling of travel sits squarely with GTA: San Andreas. The only one after that perhaps was years later with Minecraft. If only the San Andreas Multiplayer project were an engine reimplementation, I would have built and run it already.

I played Driver 1-3 and was a big fan! Man, those police chases.... I would like to try this out on Linux.

A friend of mine has one of the Driver games on one of those tiny game emulator boards. It's just the demo though and it didn't run very well on the little SBC.