Valve puts up Proton 5.13-4 to get Cyberpunk 2077 working on Linux for AMD GPUs

with the new proton experimental you can delete
PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=90
from the start options
now the game play the missing sounds of npcs
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Quoting: einherjarAnd my question was: Why not on Steam? I mean, who made it possible to play it on Linux?

I agree with this. I think CDP saying that if we buy their game on GOG they get 100% is strange thing. I guess they are saying that to Windows users. But for us Linux users, it's totally void statement because why would we give 100% of our money to them when they don't seem to want to even consider providing Vulkan renderer? Ultimately the decision is up to yourself, but I think buying the game on Steam gives the most back to Linux. If I had any power over the split, I would have given 25% to Valve.


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Quoting: einherjar

Quoting: Linuxwarper\

I took your question as Stadia vs. Steam, apologies.

In the question of GoG vs. Steam I agree with both of you.

Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: LordDaveTheKindThis approach was real 10 years ago. It has changed nowadays

No. They've included the (proprietary) library with their (proprietary) driver, exactly as I said. What they haven't done, and aren't likely to, is help open source projects - like vkd3d or Q2RTX - make any use of that. I'd like it if it were different, but it isn't.

It is:
https://www.khronos.org/news/press/vulkan-sdk-tools-and-drivers-are-ray-tracing-ready

It is a company, with Resource Management and project assignments for its employees. It isn't that they wake up in a morning and say: "wow, let's help vkd3d-proton guys today".

Quoting: drlambI took your question as Stadia vs. Steam, apologies.

In the question of GoG vs. Steam I agree with both of you.

If it hasn't been clear, I honestly have a really bad feeling about Stadia. Consider this, do you want GOG on Windows to flourish or Stadia on Linux? GOG is a drm free platform while Stadia is as close to drm sun as you can get. Yes, I know Stadia is most likely excellent streaming but at what cost? Vulkan renderer for Cyberpunk on Steam/GOG is likely not happening. So where did we benefit with that game? Didn't we expect Stadia to help native development or at very least make Proton compatibility better by devs using Vulkan? That didn't happen.

It's not a uncommon thing though. People trade their rights away for convenience all the time. Then later when companies who provided the convenience do something they don't like, they are then surprised. Facebook and their VR headsets being cheap as opposed to waiting to buy VR from Valve a company that is much better than Facebook. I rather wait with VR than buy from Facebook. I also will wait for a better streaming service from Valve or a other company than use one from a company that uses open source but often clashes with FOSS ideals.

Quoting: Linuxwarper

Quoting: drlambI took your question as Stadia vs. Steam, apologies.

In the question of GoG vs. Steam I agree with both of you.

If it hasn't been clear, I honestly have a really bad feeling about Stadia. Consider this, do you want GOG on Windows to flourish or Stadia on Linux? GOG is a drm free platform while Stadia is as close to drm sun as you can get. Yes, I know Stadia is most likely excellent streaming but at what cost? Vulkan renderer for Cyberpunk on Steam/GOG is likely not happening. So where did we benefit with that game? Didn't we expect Stadia to help native development or at very least make Proton compatibility better by devs using Vulkan? That didn't happen.

It's not a uncommon thing though. People trade their rights away for convenience all the time. Then later when companies who provided the convenience do something they don't like, they are then surprised. Facebook and their VR headsets being cheap as opposed to waiting to buy VR from Valve a company that is much better than Facebook. I rather wait with VR than buy from Facebook. I also will wait for a better streaming service from Valve or a other company than use one from a company that uses open source but often clashes with FOSS ideals.

Yeah, even the fact that the Facebook VR headsets can be jailbroken, I still wouldn't buy one because it gives Zuckerberg more money.

I wouldn't ever touch Stadia because it's Google. I mean how many projects have they put out there then went 'meh, we're bored of this now' and shut down?

Quoting: slaapliedjeYeah, even the fact that the Facebook VR headsets can be jailbroken, I still wouldn't buy one because it gives Zuckerberg more money.

I wouldn't ever touch Stadia because it's Google. I mean how many projects have they put out there then went 'meh, we're bored of this now' and shut down?

And Google is somehow much better? The problem isn't that they shutdown projects, they are the problem. I've seen many sites and services respect GDPR. But Google? They have already opted you into everything when you use their services. And when you click to opt out they add in a extra layer of barrier that is a prompt asking you if you are sure. Making the process of protecting yourself from their data collecting cumbersome and tiring.

Their way is a proprietary and anti free way. Just because they deal with open source and Linux doesn't mean their values align with what users of FOSS distributions love. It's not about closed or open. Even closed source software can be good as long as it respects users choices and privacy. So you can provide open source software but that doesn't make the provider a champion of FOSS principles.


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Quoting: Linuxwarper

Quoting: slaapliedjeYeah, even the fact that the Facebook VR headsets can be jailbroken, I still wouldn't buy one because it gives Zuckerberg more money.

I wouldn't ever touch Stadia because it's Google. I mean how many projects have they put out there then went 'meh, we're bored of this now' and shut down?

And Google is somehow much better? The problem isn't that they shutdown projects, they are the problem. I've seen many sites and services respect GDPR. But Google? They have already opted you into everything when you use their services. And when you click to opt out they add in a extra layer of barrier that is a prompt asking you if you are sure. Making the process of protecting yourself from their data collecting cumbersome and tiring.

Their way is a proprietary and anti free way. Just because they deal with open source and Linux doesn't mean their values align with what users of FOSS distributions love. It's not about closed or open. Even closed source software can be good as long as it respects users choices and privacy. So you can provide open source software but that doesn't make the provider a champion of FOSS principles.

Ha, did you miss the part about me saying I'd never use Stadia because it's Google? I just didn't mention that I don't like Google because of all the things you mention. I stay away from Chrome for the same reasons. Google is full of suck. I use DuckDuckGo everywhere as well. So yeah, we're on the same page :P

Quoting: LinuxwarperAnd Google is somehow much better? The problem isn't that they shutdown projects, they are the problem. I've seen many sites and services respect GDPR. But Google? They have already opted you into everything when you use their services. And when you click to opt out they add in a extra layer of barrier that is a prompt asking you if you are sure. Making the process of protecting yourself from their data collecting cumbersome and tiring.

Curious what country you live in that allows Google to use opt-out policies.

Here in the UK, everything Google does is opt-in. Everything.

Location. Contacts. Imprint. Assistant. It's CONSTANTLY popping up permissions when you first start using their services. Hell, you can't even search without accepting the privacy policy.

It's about the long term here. Stadia has helped Linux game development 10X what Valve has been able to do thus far in terms of AAA studios developing for/on Linux. While you may never benefit directly from this, its benefits are there.