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Ready to cure the world? Ndemic Creations have released another small bit of info for Plague Inc: The Cure, the upcoming expansion to the excellent Plague Inc: Evolved. We already knew it was coming and that it would be free for all players until they deem COVID-19 to be "under control". Now we know that it will be here in "early" 2021, and their new Steam page is up with some extra details so you can follow it along and wishlist it ready.

Here's the details from the new Steam page:

  • Hunt the Disease: Dispatch research teams around the world to find patient zero, track the spread of the outbreak and support local responses.
  • Control the Outbreak: Implement measures such as contact tracing, lockdowns and border closures to limit the spread of the outbreak, whilst getting people to wash their hands and preparing hospitals to prevent them getting overwhelmed.
  • Support the Economy: People won’t comply with poorly designed quarantine measures; use furlough schemes and other policies to drive community support and consensus.
  • Develop a Vaccine: Research, manufacture and distribute a vaccine to stop the disease. Work carefully and promote global cooperation to accelerate development.

I imagine the gameplay mechanics from the base game lend themselves quite well to the opposite side, so I'm really keen to see all the dedicated tweaks they're doing for it since they've been working together with health experts from various organisations including the WHO, CEPI and GOARN and they say that "Plague Inc: The Cure is an engaging and timely simulation of a global disease response".

You can buy the full game of Plague Inc: Evolved on Humble Store and Steam.

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Mountain Man Dec 20, 2020
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Quoting: Mountain Man"...free until COVID-19 is under control"

Let's be honest, it's not the virus that's out of control, it's our governments.

Yeah, why not making fun of 1.5 million dead people?

I wasn't making fun of anything, just pointing out that the damage being done to us is not because of some virus that's out of control but because of how our governments' have responded. The fact is, someone in the world dies from something every single second of every single day, and government totalitarianism can't stop that.
Dorrit Dec 20, 2020
Quoting: EikeYeah, why not making fun of 1.5 million dead people?
Even if it was ten times, one hundred times that number it wouldn't justify the reaction. The consequences of the so-called lockdowns will be Biblical. Soon nobody will worry about the virus because they'll be too busy searching for food.
tuubi Dec 21, 2020
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Quoting: Mountain Man
Quoting: Eike
Quoting: Mountain Man"...free until COVID-19 is under control"

Let's be honest, it's not the virus that's out of control, it's our governments.

Yeah, why not making fun of 1.5 million dead people?

I wasn't making fun of anything, just pointing out that the damage being done to us is not because of some virus that's out of control but because of how our governments' have responded. The fact is, someone in the world dies from something every single second of every single day, and government totalitarianism can't stop that.
Countries that are actually doing something about it have suffered less unnecessary death and misery, at the expense of some inconvenience. And will come out of this with a stronger economy and a healthier populace than those nations who did nothing.

You'll get your freedumbs back as soon as we get this under control. Or at least people living in properly democratic countries will. No government is perfect, but at least in my part of the world we don't have to actually be afraid of ours.

The world would most likely be in a much better situation already if people had properly followed the advice of medical experts from the beginning instead of acting like selfish brats.
Purple Library Guy Dec 21, 2020
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Quoting: Eike
Quoting: Mountain Man"...free until COVID-19 is under control"

Let's be honest, it's not the virus that's out of control, it's our governments.

Yeah, why not making fun of 1.5 million dead people?

I wasn't making fun of anything, just pointing out that the damage being done to us is not because of some virus that's out of control but because of how our governments' have responded. The fact is, someone in the world dies from something every single second of every single day, and government totalitarianism can't stop that.
Actually, I think there's quite a lot of evidence that it can. Not that government regulation can make people immortal, but it can sure as hell make them die somewhat later on average, whether it's seatbelts, or not allowing poison in our food or water or air, or safety standards at workplaces, or insisting that people stop at the nice red light.

Incidentally, I read an article today that talked about some epidemic outbreaks in the post-revolution US, in the late 1700s, including one that was in the capital, and what was done about them with the US Founding Fathers making no criticism. Yeah, full quarantines, evacuations, shut down businesses and churches, the whole nine yards including some measures more draconian than anything that's been done vis-a-vis Covid. Understanding of how to deal with epidemics is not a new thing, nor is it unique to the modern "nanny state" or whatever.


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Eike Dec 21, 2020
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Quoting: Mountain ManThe fact is, someone in the world dies from something every single second of every single day, and government totalitarianism can't stop that.

This shows Covid-19 death toll in Spain - in lockdown - compared to the years before. (Source: data.europa.eu)
Can you imagine how it would have looked without lockdown?




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Dorrit Dec 21, 2020
Quoting: EikeCan you imagine how it would have looked without lockdown?
Can you imagine how it would have looked if people had been treated properly (they still aren't, we've been betrayed by our doctors and nurses too).
Quoting: tuubiCountries that are actually doing something about it have suffered less unnecessary death and misery, at the expense of some inconvenience
Understatement of the Century. And the first part isn't true too.
Quoting: Purple Library GuyIncidentally, I read an article today
Oh! listen to Library Guy, he read an article!
Eike Dec 21, 2020
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People "researching" The Truth on the internet

tuubi Dec 21, 2020
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Quoting: Dorrit
Quoting: EikeCan you imagine how it would have looked without lockdown?
Can you imagine how it would have looked if people had been treated properly (they still aren't, we've been betrayed by our doctors and nurses too).
Are they being mean and putting public safety over your feelings? Or maybe they should have asked nicely, like they did in Sweden? Spoiler: They're doing much worse than their neighbours.

Quoting: Dorrit
Quoting: tuubiCountries that are actually doing something about it have suffered less unnecessary death and misery, at the expense of some inconvenience
Understatement of the Century. And the first part isn't true too.
Having to stay home a lot for a while (and to wear a mask when I don't) are inconveniences, moreso for some, but worth it to me if it prevents a single death. Same goes for people losing jobs or money, as long as their government makes sure nobody ends up in the streets or has to go hungry. As long as you don't kill off a significant portion of the consumer base, businesses will bounce back and so will jobs.

That first part is true as well, even if you choose to ignore facts.


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Eike Dec 21, 2020
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Quoting: tuubiHaving to stay home a lot for a while (and to wear a mask when I don't) are inconveniences, moreso for some, but worth it to me if it prevents a single death. Same goes for people losing jobs or money, as long as their government makes sure nobody ends up in the streets or has to go hungry. As long as you don't kill off a significant portion of the consumer base, businesses will bounce back and so will jobs.

I'd agree though (and it's probably the only point where I agree with them) that losing your job and the like is not named appropriately with "inconveniences". It's just... that it's necessary.
tuubi Dec 21, 2020
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Quoting: Eike
Quoting: tuubiHaving to stay home a lot for a while (and to wear a mask when I don't) are inconveniences, moreso for some, but worth it to me if it prevents a single death. Same goes for people losing jobs or money, as long as their government makes sure nobody ends up in the streets or has to go hungry. As long as you don't kill off a significant portion of the consumer base, businesses will bounce back and so will jobs.

I'd agree though (and it's probably the only point where I agree with them) that losing your job and the like is not named appropriately with "inconveniences". It's just... that it's necessary.
That's fair. For me personally (as an introvert who is married to another introvert and whose income hasn't been affected at all) this hasn't been a huge problem. The worst I've had to do is avoid properly visiting elderly family who depend on me, which sucks. I also had to cancel my summer vacation plans, but that's definitely just an inconvenience.

Of course I sympathize with those who have bigger problems, and there'll be a bunch of financial as well as psychological trauma to solve after this, but some evils are necessary, and better than the alternative.
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