Crayta now free to play on Stadia and gets Crowd Play, Little Nightmares II free on Pro

Personnally I'd like to see some form of true Linux based AndroidTV-like OS that integrates all store fronts (Steam/EGS/GoG Galaxy/some form of Lutris/etc... into a 100% controller friendly/operated UI that could be the main OS for a new console.

But who could be willing to put efforts into such a device? If not Valve, who?

https://boilingsteam.com/drauger-os-developer-looking-to-make-console/

Still unconvinced.


Last edited by Mohandevir on 12 February 2021 at 5:58 pm UTC

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Liam DaweAnd again, I don't subscribe to the thought that everything needs to "do us a favour" or contribute to Linux in some way. We are the only platform where this comes up. It's an option.

Be careful. This is the Internet, and you're being far too sensible. You're not supposed to be reasonable, sensible, and correct.

...but damn I'd like to link to your statement there in every Stadia thread. In neon. With UV-reactive paint. And a choir lining a red carpet. With dancers. Fire dancers.

Ha, I mean it's up to Liam on what he reports about.

To me, and only my opinion, reporting about Stadia gaming is sort of akin to reporting about Android gaming. They both use Linux somewhere in the stack, and in all actuality you could even play Android games on a Linux desktop easier than you can Stadia games (if you're anti-chrome). Then again I guess if you're anti-chrome you can't play with Geforce Now either. I haven't looked at Stadia's requirements, but Geforce Now doesn't even list Linux as supported at all, just says it works with Windows and MacOS, but it does work in Linux (tested it briefly on the AtariVCS, where I don't think it actually worked with the game pads, but did with keyboard / mouse).

I'll admit, I'm just bitter that things pop up on Stadia and not on desktop Linux, and it feels far too often that companies will take the flexibility and freedom and power of Linux, and then try as hard as they can to not give back. Which is kind of the whole spirit of the GPL. Does that make sense? To me it's the same thing as all those games where they are perfectly happy to make their server available to run on Linux systems, but refuse to port the client over so we can have an open operating system to enjoy the full game.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Liam DaweAnd again, I don't subscribe to the thought that everything needs to "do us a favour" or contribute to Linux in some way. We are the only platform where this comes up. It's an option.

Be careful. This is the Internet, and you're being far too sensible. You're not supposed to be reasonable, sensible, and correct.

...but damn I'd like to link to your statement there in every Stadia thread. In neon. With UV-reactive paint. And a choir lining a red carpet. With dancers. Fire dancers.

Ha, I mean it's up to Liam on what he reports about.

To me, and only my opinion, reporting about Stadia gaming is sort of akin to reporting about Android gaming. They both use Linux somewhere in the stack, and in all actuality you could even play Android games on a Linux desktop easier than you can Stadia games (if you're anti-chrome). Then again I guess if you're anti-chrome you can't play with Geforce Now either. I haven't looked at Stadia's requirements, but Geforce Now doesn't even list Linux as supported at all, just says it works with Windows and MacOS, but it does work in Linux (tested it briefly on the AtariVCS, where I don't think it actually worked with the game pads, but did with keyboard / mouse).

I'll admit, I'm just bitter that things pop up on Stadia and not on desktop Linux, and it feels far too often that companies will take the flexibility and freedom and power of Linux, and then try as hard as they can to not give back. Which is kind of the whole spirit of the GPL. Does that make sense? To me it's the same thing as all those games where they are perfectly happy to make their server available to run on Linux systems, but refuse to port the client over so we can have an open operating system to enjoy the full game.

It's not really Stadia's (or Google's) responsibility to bring those games to GNU/Linux desktop though. Google does do a substantial amount of open source projects (not gone through the licenses to determine how "open", but that's an exercise for the reader, see here: https://opensource.google/projects/explore/featured) but it's simply not as visible on a desktop because that's not their business area.

I think what's happening is that Stadia is making it more apparent to the wider GNU/Linux desktop user base something that I've been saying for quite a long time: there's no technical reason stopping companies from releasing GNU/Linux versions of their games. Even id software never did that in an officially supported manner. Even though Doom 2016 needed to modify about 2 files to produce a fully working GNU/Linux version, Bethesda (or zenimax, or microsoft, or whoever owns it now) never bothered.

Yeah, I don't think it is their responsibility, that is on the developers of the game to do so. I just feel Stadia is another platform, unrelated to desktop Linux gaming, it is browser gaming.
But it feels like Stadia should / could be a stepping stone for developers to release their games on Desktop Linux, it is that this hasn't happened that I find annoying.


Last edited by slaapliedje on 13 February 2021 at 7:58 pm UTC

Quoting: GuestI'll admit to being disgruntled when these incredibly wealthy companies (and even more incredibly wealthy management) have everything in place, but don't even bother to test the waters. Then you see an indie dev with far less resources release something on multiple platforms, with far better finish, and more creative gameplay.

I can't say I care terribly about companies supporting Linux or not. It's always nice but I had no expectation of Google supporting the platform. I'm more concerned about what Stadia means for Linux and PC platform in general. Many people are going around thinking streaming is the future, when it's just a future. I could say alot more but I will end that subject with this; I've attempted now multiple times to install TWRP properly on my android phone. The first step before I can move on to install MicroG. Why? To degoogle my phone. I don't want to install LineageOS or E OS, I prefer the UI of the stock ROM. While I want choice and freedom to play games way I want and on platform I want we have Google and Microsoft. Recently I saw Microsoft social media account post a image of many consoles with caption "Don't be a fanboy!".

Quoting: GuestI'm not really buying the support costs for GNU/Linux being a thing anymore either. It's not like big budget games have a quality reputation on Windows these days, where it's probably just a crappy console port to begin with. They could probably divert a little marketing money to a GNU/Linux desktop version and they'd reap that back and more with all the free publicity from GNU/Linux users bubbling over general tech forums anyway.

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I think they simply get more money from DLC and such for Windows than supporting Linux. These are money counting companies we are talking about, it's just beneficial for them that they have only Windows to target for PC. If Linux got 20% market share it would mean more work for them, at least initially til their workflow was standardized.


Last edited by Linuxwarper on 14 February 2021 at 4:15 pm UTC