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On the driver side the 460.56 release is already live with support added in for the GeForce RTX 3060. Not only that though this release also has the following fixes:
- Fixed a bug with indexed ray payloads in Vulkan.
- Fixed a bug where calls to vkCreateDevice could fail on Ampere GPUs when ray tracing extensions were enabled and the application was running within the Steam Linux Runtime.
- Fixed a regression that could cause display corruption when using a scaled resolution after resuming from power management suspend.
For the release of the hardware, it's probably going to be another "paper launch" as we fully expect stock of the GeForce RTX 3060 from NVIDIA to sell out pretty darn quickly just like all the other releases have done so. Thanks in part to high demand and scalpers continuing to buy up as much as they can to sell on for a profit - amongst other things. However, NVIDIA are trying to cut down on crypto miners using standard GPUs by limiting the hash rate of the cards through a mix of a "secure handshake between the driver, the RTX 3060 silicon, and the BIOS (firmware) that prevents removal of the hash rate limiter" (source) plus dedicated cards for miners. So hopefully in future we will see more cards available for standard consumers and gamers.
Here's a reminder of the specifications stacked up against the GeForce RTX 3060 Ti:
| GeForce RTX 3060 Ti | GeForce RTX 3060 | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| GPU Engine Specs: | NVIDIA CUDA® Cores | 4864 | 3584 |
| Boost Clock (GHz) | 1.67 | 1.78 | |
| Base Clock (GHz) | 1.41 | 1.32 | |
| Memory Specs: | Standard Memory Config | 8 GB GDDR6 | 12 GB GDDR6 |
| Memory Interface Width | 256-bit | 192-bit | |
| Technology Support: | Ray Tracing Cores | 2nd Generation | 2nd Generation |
| Tensor Cores | 3rd Generation | 3rd Generation | |
| NVIDIA Architecture | Ampere | Ampere | |
| Vulkan RT API, OpenGL 4.6 | Yes | Yes | |
| HDMI 2.1 | Yes | Yes | |
| DisplayPort 1.4a | Yes | Yes | |
| NVIDIA Encoder | 7th Generation | 7th Generation | |
| NVIDIA Decoder | 5th Generation | 5th Generation | |
| Thermal and Power Specs: | Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) | 93 | 93 |
| Graphics Card Power (W) | 200 | 170 | |
| Required System Power (W) (2) | 600 | 550 |
Yes that's correct, the standard model of the 3060 has more VRAM.
The GeForce RTX 3060 goes live for sale at around 5PM UTC / 9AM PST. Exact pricing is yet to be confirmed with NVIDIA previously stating they should start around $329
Will you be looking to get one? Let us know in the comments what you think to this latest card from NVIDIA.
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Yup, they should stop releasing cards till they can deliver cards, but hey its news and people see the name nvidia so I guess marketing is happy
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Yup, they should stop releasing cards till they can deliver cards, but hey its news and people see the name nvidia so I guess marketing is happy
Well, at least according to themselves, they still delivered a fair number of card. But miners and scalpers got the lot of them ...
Also, since these cards are shaved off version of the other cards (defectuous cores basically) then it does not remove any stocks, quite the contrary. So might as well release what they have. Hopefully the situation will sort itself out in the coming months. For what it's worth, Jim Ryan from Playstation expects stuff to get better for the second half of the year. Which seem reasonable as vaccines should help subdue the crisis. And by that time, more and more people who want to have new console/gpus should have them, thus hopefully reducing demand a bit. Also the mining bubble might have crashed again by then.
Last edited by 3zekiel on 27 February 2021 at 11:08 am UTC
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However, NVIDIA are trying to cut down on crypto miners using standard GPUs by limiting the hash rate of the cards through a mix of a "secure handshake between the driver, the RTX 3060 silicon, and the BIOS (firmware) that prevents removal of the hash rate limiter" (source) plus dedicated cards for miners. So hopefully in future we will see more cards available for standard consumers and gamers.Wrong. Nvidia are highlighting why closed source software cannot be trusted, by releasing a driver that will purposefully kneecap performance to promote market segmentation. The fact they're making a line of GPUs specifically for mining is proof enough it has nothing to do with consumer GPU availability. This will have a deliberate, unspoken side effect of making it even harder for the open source nouveau drivers to support the card in any capacity. Even if you don't care about the increased corporate control angle, there is another one:
We don't know how often the mining detector will have false positive detections, massively decreasing the performance of a game because its shaders look similar to mining. You might be able to get through to Nvidia if you're a massive studio, but indie games will fall victim to this, with no recourse except screaming on Twitter. It's basically a matter of time.
TLDR: Don't give Nvidia positive PR for showing off how anticonsumer they are.
Last edited by Pikolo on 25 February 2021 at 4:33 pm UTC
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Mohandevir Feb 25, 2021
Newegg Canada... When the RTX 3060 posts appeared, after a 5 mins 404 error... Sold Out. Yeah right!
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on_en_a_gros Feb 25, 2021
Out of curiosity,I just looked the price, it goes from 459€ to 649€. It would be interesting to see some benchmark, but I don't think that the investment is worth the performance.
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I don't get why people are happy about this castration for mining. As others mentioned before: NVidia is at the same time releasing dedicated mining cards!
- Availability will not improve
- Mining will not stop
All that's happening is: You cannot use your expensive Gaming GPU for mining if you want to.
But loosing liberties seems to be the rage these days ..
- Availability will not improve
- Mining will not stop
All that's happening is: You cannot use your expensive Gaming GPU for mining if you want to.
But loosing liberties seems to be the rage these days ..
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furaxhornyx Feb 26, 2021
Out of curiosity, I clicked on the link about dedicated cards for mining.
Big title on the page:
Is "professional mining" a real thing ?
Big title on the page:
NVIDIA CMP HX
Dedicated GPU for Professional Mining
Is "professional mining" a real thing ?
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Out of curiosity, I clicked on the link about dedicated cards for mining.
Big title on the page:
NVIDIA CMP HX
Dedicated GPU for Professional Mining
Is "professional mining" a real thing ?
Current Ethereum Hashrate: 435 TH/s
Income from that Hashrate: 566M$/month
That's without energy cost, which eats around 25% if you are paying "normal" prices. And much (~5%) less if you have an industry contract.
So not only is professional mining a thing, you can do it too if you have a GPU with more then 4GB of VRAM. I bought some used 5700 XT back in December for ~ 500$, they are payed off now.
Last edited by gabber on 26 February 2021 at 8:52 am UTC
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furaxhornyx Feb 26, 2021
Out of curiosity, I clicked on the link about dedicated cards for mining.
Big title on the page:
NVIDIA CMP HX
Dedicated GPU for Professional Mining
Is "professional mining" a real thing ?
Current Ethereum Hashrate: 435 TH/s
Income from that Hashrate: 566M$/month
That's without energy cost, which eats around 25% if you are paying "normal" prices. And much (~5%) less if you have an industry contract.
So not only is professional mining a thing, you can do it too if you have a GPU with more then 4GB of VRAM. I bought some used 5700 XT back in December for ~ 500$, they are payed off now.
Thanks for your explanation, yet, one more question:
So not only is professional mining a thing, you can do it too if you have a GPU with more then 4GB of VRAM. I bought some used 5700 XT back in December for ~ 500$, they are payed off now.
The money spent on your GPU is paid off in Ethereum, right ? But this is "virtual value", are there any store or things you can actually buy with this ?
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The money spent on your GPU is paid off in Ethereum, right ? But this is "virtual value", are there any store or things you can actually buy with this ?
Whether crypto is more or less real then fiat ($ etc.) is another debate. True, there is no government "backing" crypto. But there is also no government printing crypto and thus devaluing the currency.
Fact is: you can easily trade between cryptos, trading them against fiat requires some verficiation. Even paypal gets into the action, AFAIK you can trade BTC already in the US with paypal. And just some weeks ago Tesla announced their plans, this pushed the price of BTC > 50k$ for the first time.
If you want to give it a shot I would recommend to
- open an account on a trading site (i.e. Coinbase )
- get the address of your ETH-Wallet (receive, eth)
- start the miner with this address as the target
- check on https://ethermine.org/ if it works (may take 30 mins to show up)
- adjust payout threshold to 0.05 (-> it may take some days before you reach this level)
I'm sure you'll find some stores online in your country which accept crypto. Here in Switzerland one of the biggest retailers (digitec/galaxus) accepts Crypto. So I could theoretical buy GPUs with crypto for mining crypto xD
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Arehandoro Feb 26, 2021
Mining is an environmental disaster.
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Mining is an environmental disaster.Funny reading this on a website called "gamingonlinux".
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In fact I think there's an odd relationship between the price of crypto and governments printing fiat currency. I've come to the conclusion that the current rise in eg Bitcoin prices is basically just a subset of the massive bull market in stocks, with both of them fuelled by the gargantuan bailouts various governments pushed into the financial sectorThe money spent on your GPU is paid off in Ethereum, right ? But this is "virtual value", are there any store or things you can actually buy with this ?
Whether crypto is more or less real then fiat ($ etc.) is another debate. True, there is no government "backing" crypto. But there is also no government printing crypto and thus devaluing the currency.
For more than ten years now what we've been seeing is an odd sort of compartmentalized inflation. Normal stuff like food or cars don't change in price that much because real people don't have any more money, but things you invest in and things like Picassos that are a cross between investments and really high-end consumer goods do, because central banks are giving financiers tons of easy money to throw at them.
Crypto is basically a thing people can speculate in, and we are in an economic phase where speculation is the main event. It may be possible to use crypto as actual currency, but that's not currently the point--crypto is tulips. But so are most other things right now, so there's no shame in it.
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Arehandoro Feb 27, 2021
Mining is an environmental disaster.Funny reading this on a website called "gamingonlinux".
Care to elaborate why?
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Mining is an environmental disaster.Funny reading this on a website called "gamingonlinux".
Care to elaborate why?
Because gaming is more pointless then mining...
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Arehandoro Mar 1, 2021
Mining is an environmental disaster.Funny reading this on a website called "gamingonlinux".
Care to elaborate why?
Because gaming is more pointless then mining...
Is it so with gaming because generally speaking one doesn't make a profit? Because that is a horrible excuse.
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Tell that to people who go on VR vacations instead of flying - that's a very simple and significant environmental benefit from gaming.Mining is an environmental disaster.Funny reading this on a website called "gamingonlinux".
Care to elaborate why?
Because gaming is more pointless then mining...
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