EVE Online getting a full browser-based version with EVE Anywhere, will work on Linux

QuoteNice to see no artificial barriers being put up and supporting many different browsers is great.

and

Quote"Happy to clarify that EVE Anywhere is playable on any desktop OS provided the browser is in our supported list (Chrome, Edge, Firefox, Safari)"

doesn't really sound like no artificial barriers.

That was meant as in: original GeForce NOW needed you to force ChromeOS as a browser agent string and Amazon Luna blocks Linux last I was shown. Those types of artificial barriers. Of course for a browser-based experience, there's always going to be a list of what they say they support.

If they would now just remove the ability to buy skill points, and the "play for free" BS. I would be a happy returning camper!

Quoting: Liam DaweThat was meant as in: original GeForce NOW needed you to force ChromeOS as a browser agent string and Amazon Luna blocks Linux last I was shown. Those types of artificial barriers. Of course for a browser-based experience, there's always going to be a list of what they say they support.

i mean yeah but the wording is super bad then. They could have said It works on every browser but we officially support this and that browser. but they seem to be artificially limiting the use of other browsers (user agent strings)... at least according to the wording.. might just be the poor choice of words ofc

Quoting: Xpander... at least according to the wording.. might just be the poor choice of words ofc

The average marketing person would probably show a confused look and say "What other browsers?".

Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: Xpander... at least according to the wording.. might just be the poor choice of words ofc

The average marketing person would probably show a confused look and say "What other browsers?".

I see it as the same as all the Linux distros. We don't expect them to support every single small one, so why for browsers? There's plenty of smaller ones - should they have to support them all and the various ways they support standards differently?


Last edited by Liam Dawe on 17 March 2021 at 3:14 pm UTC

I dont expect them to support all the browsers.. all im pointing out is the wording..they say that it works only with browsers from their supported list, which to me sounds like artificial barrier

Games that support linux are usually Ubuntu or SteamOS, but i dont have to fake my <insert distro> to be Ubuntu.

Its all fine if they officially support those browsers. Its logical to not cover them all.
It comes down to the wording like... "...provided the browser is in our supported list (Chrome, Edge, Firefox, Safari)"


Last edited by Xpander on 17 March 2021 at 3:22 pm UTC

Agreed. Useragent sniffing to decide whether to show content or an 'unsupported browser' message is terrible practice. Test whether the browser has the capabilities required, and if it does then show the content.

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: Xpander... at least according to the wording.. might just be the poor choice of words ofc

The average marketing person would probably show a confused look and say "What other browsers?".

I see it as the same as all the Linux distros. We don't expect them to support every single small one, so why for browsers? There's plenty of smaller ones - should they have to support them all and the various ways they support standards differently?

Exactly.


I think sometimes when we look through the 'Linux lens' we forget the layman on the other end.

Quoting: WorMzyAgreed. Useragent sniffing to decide whether to show content or an 'unsupported browser' message is terrible practice. Test whether the browser has the capabilities required, and if it does then show the content.

But is this the case for EVE online? Saying "We support this list of browsers" doesn't imply that they will not allow the game to run in others (they can be displaying a warning message).


Last edited by x_wing on 17 March 2021 at 5:23 pm UTC

Not sure this is really relevant to the "cloud gaming" controversy . . . I mean, it's an MMO. They're cloud gaming by definition; making it more widely available and more platform agnostic is a pure win.

Huh . . . come to think of it, MMOs are already the "Games that can only be done on the cloud" that Stadia was talking about creating before Google folded the game creation part of Stadia . . .

How is this browser-based client implemented? Is it a WASM or WebGL sort of thing, where the actual graphics rendering is done by your computer, or is it a Stadia-style "streaming" thing where the game runs entirely on their servers and you need to receive video from them every frame?

If it's the former, then I will give it a try when it's out of beta. If it's the latter, then I probably won't play it unless I someday move to a country with better internet.

It remind me of Quake Live. It was basically a free plugin for firefox and you could play quake with linux and mac support, until zenimax bought bethesda and id software, then they removed linux support, removed web browser plugin, then the game interface became annoying to use, then they created non sens weapons and easy strafe jump by default and then they abandonned the game. Which is basically everything they could to destroy the game and it's commnunity (which btw never dies).

Now that microsoft bought bethesda and id software like all the media say (but they dit not bought these studios, they bought this terrible zenimax and his horrible CEO because they are the same scamer breeds.) I can't believe these people are still not in jail, like ex zenimax ceo who scamed country from middle east and never went to jail because he is a friend of Donald Trump brother.

But I'm getting irrelevant to the topic ^^ Looking forward to try Eve again, especially on linux.


Last edited by Jahimself on 18 March 2021 at 3:37 am UTC

Quoting: XpanderI dont expect them to support all the browsers.. all im pointing out is the wording..they say that it works only with browsers from their supported list, which to me sounds like artificial barrier

Games that support linux are usually Ubuntu or SteamOS, but i dont have to fake my <insert distro> to be Ubuntu.

Its all fine if they officially support those browsers. Its logical to not cover them all.
It comes down to the wording like... "...provided the browser is in our supported list (Chrome, Edge, Firefox, Safari)"

There's a difference between "we've decided from the getgo that Chrome on Windows is our singular target any anything else is unsupported" and "we've tested it on the four most popular browsers on the three most popular OSes, these are supported and anything else may not work". The first is an executive choice to artificially limit availability, the second is consequence to being able only test and validate ever so much.

"Supported" means something else in a world of consumer software where once you make that claim, you're on the hook for making sure your paying customers are actually getting what they asked for.

As Xpander pointed out, "provided that" is the key to the meaning.
English is not my native language, but still, "provided that" = a necessary condition, not a sufficient one.
Not sure if this is really what they mean, tho (as Xpander pointed out too).


Last edited by kokoko3k on 18 March 2021 at 9:45 pm UTC

all i care is if i can play eve online in a more smooth better way on my Linux distro as natively.
And also i hate streaming services until i got better internet. And they says no download required.

EVE Online is still my top played game according to my Steam profile with 900+ hours played, and I didn't always have Steam running while playing. I just went to double check, and yeah, it's that high. I know there are people out there that put even more hours into games, but that's kinda unbelievable for me. I haven't even played for a couple years now!

This makes me wonder how many hours I have in WoW.

Anyway, I am not sure if I'm done with EVE forever or not, but it's unique and there are no impatient, super immature kids running around. I recommend it to anyone that likes space ships, sci-fi, risky adventures, markets & economy, manufacturing, transportation, sneaky solo combat, squad-based combat... the list goes on. There was one time that my corp was in a war that we didn't want to be in. We hid the whole corp in a wormhole for a week. I'll probably never forget that experience in EVE. It was strange but cool even if it got boring by the end of the week. There's just not really anything else like it.

I said years ago scenarios similar to this are the future of "Linux" gaming - making sure that tomorrow's browser and streaming based games work on Linux. Platform agnostic really works for us, and for everyone, and floats all the boats. I have huge respect for Eve online. Sadly, I don't have the amount of time required to play the game with any proficiency, but I'm thrilled it's a "Linux" option now...

Wormholes nice places to live in peace. İ have earn my isk'ies with just selling wormhole locations. it was fun.
lived 3 months in a k612 system too.