Microsoft reportedly have Discord in their sights to acquire

Quoting: PublicNuisanceI refused to touch Discord before this and would not see this as a reason to start.

I stayed away from it for a long time as well... and then more and more of the projects I hang out around have decided to start using it (like Foundry VTT, AtariVCS, GURPS, etc). That's the only reason I ever created an account. But much like most other chat systems, I make up info. :P

Discord can go to hell, if you ask me.

I hoped for a worse name than Microsoft, but seems to be all we get. I hope they fuck it up gloriously and people mass-migrate to things like discourse and matrix.

Yes, probably not every kid and their dog can create their own servers then, but there is no free lunch anyway, right.

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Quoting: GuestNeat, hadn't heard of that one. One advantage Tox has over it though is decentralization and possibly anonymity. You don't have to use anyone's specific server, i.e. everyone is a server since it's purely p2p.

Once the next major release of toxcore is out, group chats will have file sharing, so it will be more Element-like in that regard. But cool that there seem to be some other secure options out there. ^n.n^

Yeah, taking a real quick look at that, it reminds me that I've also played around with Jami in the past (previously GNU Ring), but honestly the thing I like about Matrix is that it is a bit more persisent/organized in that you can administer a server, moderate it, etc. - I'm thinking more for organizing a gaming guild, or a convention... something that blurs the lines between business-focused Slack/Teams, but with better voice UI.

Just doing ad-hoc group chats, yeah - that's got a few more options, thankfully.

Ah okie, yep can't have persistence without storage, and Tox doesn't have p2p storage implemented, most likely intentionally since anonymity, privacy, and security is the goal. You also can't have users directly joining a group chat and instead they have to have one of the users of the group add them to their private contact list first. Sounds like Element might be better in that case for organizing furmeets, furry cons, etc then.

Avatar matches.

Why are you pointing out the obvious, that we're furs? X3

I'm already on Element. Actually I was using the Librem Chat client, but it's a little weird, seems Element sets up the encryption keys a lot easier.

Quoting: PhiladelphusI'll grudgingly admit they've managed not to run GitHub into the ground yet

They put Nat Friedman in charge of it; he's an old GNOME hacker, that ended up at Microsoft as part of the Ximian/Xamarin acquisition.

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Quoting: scaineI closed my GitHub account the moment that deal went through and I'll do the same if this happens to Discord. It's a shame, as I like the Discord experience, even though I gave up on their client (I only run it in the web now), but as an old, jaded long time techie, I won't have anything to do with Microsoft. Nothing they do absolves them of the hurt they bring to this industry day in and day out with their legal strong-arming, proprietary lock in, aggressive acquisitions and baffling licensing. They can "love Linux" all they want, I'll have nothing to do with them.

its amazing that their love for linux so far has been one sided. sided to microsofts best interest of course. everything has been centered around making linux things run smoother, and better on windows. to attract linux developers, to windows, to develop their linux things, on windows. none of it has actually benefited linux at all.

if microsoft truly loved linux like they claim, they would start opening up some important stuff. like directx. contribute to wine, etc. if they actively contributed to wine, i would feel far more comfortable with their work on WSL for example.

And WSL still runs like garbage on it :P

So sad news... I moved to Discord after Skype became such a mess under Microsoft's direction. Now I should probably start looking elsewhere as well, but my friends will probably want to stay with Discord because "it works" (they use the full-fledged Windows version)

Hmmm, mixed bag.
Github is fine after their acquisition. As is Minecraft (if not better, actually).
Skype just went downhill after MS took over.

Those are honestly the only projects that MS bought that I had any personal interest in.

I don't really care enough for Discord to react one way or the other.
I'll just keep using it as needed, unless it becomes crappy now.

I'm only using signal now as a skype alternative, even managed to get some family members using it. If you only use such software for group voice chat, there is also mumble, and a myriad of other open technologies that can fit your needs.

Fuck that. I really like Discord and run more than one server for different projects. If this goes through, I'll be looking at alternatives. I was planning on paying for Nitro, but not if Microsoft buys up Discord. This is really disappointing.

Quoting: PhiladelphusI'm no fan of Microsoft buying anything, but I'll grudgingly admit they've managed not to run GitHub into the ground yet, so…50-50 Discord will still be worth using in a few years?

It's not about running it to the ground or not, it's about the problem of having your greatest enemy being in charge of your secret operations headquarters. Yeah, I'm saying it in a somewhat tongue in cheek manner, but the truth is, the ONLY thing that's changed in regards to Microsoft vs Linux is that Linux has managed to grow up tremendously and has completely taken over the server/backend space, and so Microsoft, who is the sore loser of the server/backend race, has been forced to treat Linux as a real business competitor instead of just a small time fish that can be safely slandered as "cancer" and then promptly ignored. And the way it treats its real competitors is, like a guy already posted above, Capitalism 101; ie EEE all over again, part of which is aggressively buying out pieces of your competition and thus slowly chipping away at the things that make them strong.

TL;DR having my business competitor control my center of operations is a big NO in my books.


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