Star Labs have now fully revealed and launched the slick 14" StarBook Mk V Linux laptop

I hadn't heard about ElementaryOS for a while. I go check them out and I discover they are behind a paywall now. So is not surprising that they disappeared from the news lately.

Quoting: M@GOidI hadn't heard about ElementaryOS for a while. I go check them out and I discover they are behind a paywall now. So is not surprising that they disappeared from the news lately.

You can click Custom and enter zero: the Purchase button changes to Download...

Bummer, 16:9 screen... I can't go back to it after having had many years of 3:2 laptop screens. I think the only vertically larger native option are the Lenovo Thinkpads and the Dells....

I wonder why Star Labs don't do any AMD laptops? This same machine with an AMD could sell cheaper (I believe) and to me it would be more appealing. Also maybe get rid of that 2.0 USB and add another USB-C Thunderbolt 4 :D

What's the gaming like on the Xe graphics?

Quoting: pageroundWhat's the gaming like on the Xe graphics?

It should be on par with currently competing Vega graphics. On AMD you get up to eight cores with a comparable power envelope though…

Quoting: iiariBummer, 16:9 screen...

Quite
16:9 has no place in smaller screens. 3:2 or 16:10 all the way.
Even in larger monitors 16:10 is much superior to 16:9.


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Quoting: iiariBummer, 16:9 screen... I can't go back to it after having had many years of 3:2 laptop screens. I think the only vertically larger native option are the Lenovo Thinkpads and the Dells....

That gives me a bizarro-world idea. So, for a lot of things you want to read/look at on a computer screen, you actually would want it to be taller than it is wide. Part of the reason they go with wider-than-tall is tradition dating back from TVs, and on laptops part is that they have to match the bottom half, with keyboard layouts having natural reasons to be wider than they are tall, at least if you're doing any fast touch-typing.
But how about a laptop design with a screen whose primary orientation was vertical? I can think of a few ways to manage it:
1. Strange keyboard layout. The screen simply hinges on a short side, and you have a keyboard that's laid out much more vertically. Not going to be winning any typing competitions, but if you're OK with that you've got this tall screen.
2. Screen opens on the short side, but has a narrow attachment to the base which you can slide around the edge to the middle of the long side, where it locks again and has contacts to power and so forth. You have a normally oriented keyboard with an odd looking vertical screen rising from it; to close it properly you slide it around again (because if you just folded it down from where it is the screen rectangle would be at right angles to the keyboard rectangle). Finicky, probably not durable.
3. Screen is detachable, basically a tablet, which you can have vertical or horizontal. But there's attachment points/clamps so that it will stand up, and be charged when attached to the keyboard.
4. Screen is attached on the long side, but it's actually attached to a hinged arm, not directly to the bottom half. So you open the laptop and it's a normal screen, but you can slide it up the arm and then pivot it vertical. The result is slightly "lumpy" when it's closed because you have this arm running down the back of the screen, but you could make the thing pretty flat.


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Quoting: Dorrit

Quoting: iiariBummer, 16:9 screen...

Quite
16:9 has no place in smaller screens. 3:2 or 16:10 all the way.
Even in larger monitors 16:10 is much superior to 16:9.

I quite like my 32:10. Just wish more games supported it.

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: iiariBummer, 16:9 screen... I can't go back to it after having had many years of 3:2 laptop screens. I think the only vertically larger native option are the Lenovo Thinkpads and the Dells....

That gives me a bizarro-world idea. So, for a lot of things you want to read/look at on a computer screen, you actually would want it to be taller than it is wide. Part of the reason they go with wider-than-tall is tradition dating back from TVs, and on laptops part is that they have to match the bottom half, with keyboard layouts having natural reasons to be wider than they are tall, at least if you're doing any fast touch-typing.
But how about a laptop design with a screen whose primary orientation was vertical? I can think of a few ways to manage it:
1. Strange keyboard layout. The screen simply hinges on a short side, and you have a keyboard that's laid out much more vertically. Not going to be winning any typing competitions, but if you're OK with that you've got this tall screen.
2. Screen opens on the short side, but has a narrow attachment to the base which you can slide around the edge to the middle of the long side, where it locks again and has contacts to power and so forth. You have a normally oriented keyboard with an odd looking vertical screen rising from it; to close it properly you slide it around again (because if you just folded it down from where it is the screen rectangle would be at right angles to the keyboard rectangle). Finicky, probably not durable.
3. Screen is detachable, basically a tablet, which you can have vertical or horizontal. But there's attachment points/clamps so that it will stand up, and be charged when attached to the keyboard.
4. Screen is attached on the long side, but it's actually attached to a hinged arm, not directly to the bottom half. So you open the laptop and it's a normal screen, but you can slide it up the arm and then pivot it vertical. The result is slightly "lumpy" when it's closed because you have this arm running down the back of the screen, but you could make the thing pretty flat.

Here is the thing that bugs me...
So the movie industry and others all 'plot' to do away with 4:3 displays, or 5:4. Which we that are picky KNOW are better for actual work, as 16:9 is really only good for movie consumption. And even then, more and more movies do things like use 2.35:1, or you know Snyder doing 4:3 again... coders usually enjoy turning their monitors so they are 9:16.
Yet, someone, somewhere decided we should ditch optical drives on our computers, and forcing us to stream instead (via whatever methods, legal or not) so buying physical media is waning and they can get us on subscriptions... sorry, rambled a bit..

Anyhow, web sites, and documents in general usually have a specific margin and characters per line count which basically wastes space on wide screen displays. Basically, if you eliminate movie consumption (and video games in a sense, they also can be better with more horizontal space) then rea)y computer monitors should be taller, not wider.

Anyhkw, end of rant. These laptops look nice.

16:9 = Big narp on that one. I'll keep my old 16:10 MacbookTux, tyvm.
Intel = Meh, no thanks.

Seriously. Can we PLEASE stop with 16:9? It was bad in 2010, it was bad in 2015 and it's still bad in 2021. I get that they are cheaper than proper aspect panels, but come one.

16:9 is horrible on anything smaller than a 27". And even then it's not good. /rant >_<

Quoting: Appelsin16:9 = Big narp on that one. I'll keep my old 16:10 MacbookTux, tyvm.
Intel = Meh, no thanks.

Seriously. Can we PLEASE stop with 16:9? It was bad in 2010, it was bad in 2015 and it's still bad in 2021. I get that they are cheaper than proper aspect panels, but come one.

16:9 is horrible on anything smaller than a 27". And even then it's not good. /rant >_<

Yeah, I don't get it. I have a few 16:10 panels and my current set up is a 32:10. It is a much nicer ratio. The painful thing is so many games only support 16:9...