Back in February 2021 we wrote an article about how Ironburg Inventions (a subsidiary of Corsair Gaming) were suing Valve for the Steam Controller and Valve has now firmly lost the case. As a brief reminder to save clicking around: Ironburg hold a patent on a controller with two buttons on the back, they sued Valve since the Steam Controller has back paddles.
In the new ruling that can be seen here, Judge Thomas S. Zilly has denied Valve's attempt to have a new trial and overturn the initial jury decision of $4,029,533.93 in damages. Overall it didn't go too well with Valve's defence stating how it was "about as straightforward a patent case as you could ever hope to get" and that the jury would have "no trouble making the right decision at the end of this case" based on the Steam Controller and the Patent. Zilly mentioned "The Court agrees that this case is straightforward and can be decided on the ’525 Patent and the accused device. The jury appears to have done exactly that, but defendant does not like the result the jury reached. Defendant’s dissatisfaction does not constitute grounds for judgment as a matter of law or a new trial." — ouch.
Not ideal for Valve, however, the judge also decided that Valve's infringement wasn't enough to award enhanced damages which could have been a real disaster. For Valve though, is four million dollars a lot? They print money thanks to Steam, so not likely. Since Valve no longer produce the Steam Controller, cutting their losses here is probably a good idea.
As it turns out, the previous hints of a new Steam Controller that might have come with four back-buttons appears to not be happening either. In the court documents we can see developers from Valve clearly mention the four-button approach did not survive their original iterative design process after many tests. Shame. I absolutely loved the Steam Controller, so a new version that got around the patent issues with a tweaked design would have been ideal. Well, at least we shall have the upcoming SteamPal console perhaps.
But it has only become clear to me why Valve is diligently applying for patents. :)
It's annoying, but I suspect Valve won't go bust because of it.
Last edited by 1xok on 1 June 2021 at 7:20 pm UTC
Quoting: GuestQuoting: Luke_NukemGeez. I know with absolute certainty that a decade or so ago I had a controller with back buttons like this. No idea if I've still got it, might look for it. Something like a gioteck maybe?
The patent is from 2011. Geez.
Well geez. Sorry my sense of time is skewed, I'm old. I was at least 12 years or more, and not Corsair or Ironburg Inventions branded afaik unless the company that made it was bought.
Quoting: Luke_NukemYeah, this is a horse shit patent. Joysticks / controllers have had buttons on the back / bottom, all over the place for years.Quoting: GuestQuoting: Luke_NukemGeez. I know with absolute certainty that a decade or so ago I had a controller with back buttons like this. No idea if I've still got it, might look for it. Something like a gioteck maybe?
The patent is from 2011. Geez.
Well geez. Sorry my sense of time is skewed, I'm old. I was at least 12 years or more, and not Corsair or Ironburg Inventions branded afaik unless the company that made it was bought.
It's a shame you can have a patent on something so minor (in my opinion), but the current patent system works like this...
Quoting: GuestDo you paladins really think Valve owns no patents?
Patent portfolios are a sad norm in the modern industry. It's what you do with them that makes the difference.
They are the nuclear deterrent equivalent of business, a "lawsuit weapon" arsenal that can be used both for offence and defense. I.e.: if you lawsuit me for your patent I counterlawsuit you with mines ensuring mutual destruction.
And then there are trolls. Who do what your average troll would do with a nuclear weapon. Use it to blackmail people and get some cash.
Last edited by Mal on 2 June 2021 at 9:21 pm UTC
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