Debian 11 "bullseye" is officially out now

Quoting: NanobangPS Deb kidz: Is there no straightforward, reasonably simple way to manage Nvidia drivers?

Unfortunately not really, after you installed from a "non-free" medium, you have to do the complicated "apt-get install nvidia-driver" - once.

Quoting: Lightkey

Quoting: GuestAm I the only one wonder how this adds up to Linux Gaming except of being a Linux distro? o.O

Edit: Or because it's what most distros a based on including those often used for gaming?

Debian is currently the sixth-most popular distribution among GamingOnLinux readers, ahead of gaming-centric Pop!_OS, for reference.

Still not understanding why Pop_OS is considered 'gaming-centric'.
You aren't the only one who says this though. Seriously, Pop just comes with System76 laptops, and is basically a workstation attempt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQDAXyNkCo This dude says the same thing... baffles me. It isn't like they default install steam, scummvm, dosbox, etc.

Quoting: NanobangI tried Deb 11 XFCE on my lappy just last week, as a matter of fact. I was enjoying it until it came time to install a proper Nvidia driver, and I balked. Eek! Back to Mint Uma --- le sigh.

PS Deb kidz: Is there no straightforward, reasonably simple way to manage Nvidia drivers?

 
su -
sed -i s/main/main\ contrib\ non\-free\/g /etc/apt/sources.list
apt update
apt install nvidia-driver
reboot
There you go.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: GuestAm I the only one wonder how this adds up to Linux Gaming except of being a Linux distro? o.O

There were just articles for Elementary OS and ZorinOS and now you're asking about this?
Liam always does articles on distros. Often DEs as well. I guess they're what you play games on. And also Liam does not restrict himself--he's always said if he wants to do an article about N, he'll do an article about N. And there's nothing we can do to stop him! Bwahahaha!!!

Well Leap 15.3 he did not cover but yes when reading post abut other DEs or Distros I questioning the same as well :D

And no I don't want to stop anyone in doing what someone likes sorry if this delivered a different message as I intended :/

Ha, I mean it could be construed as most distros have a sort of 6 month release cycle, so when they release a new one, it's a bit more meh than say Debian that releases once every couple of years.

Then again, Debian does try for the 'universal operating system' more than a sleek installer, easy of use (though it is easy to use). So for some it's not that exciting of a release. Most don't understand that the most popular distributions are, at their core, Debian systems though.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: slaapliedjeMost don't understand that the most popular distributions are, at their core, Debian systems though.

It seem I am one of the few who never got the hang of anything Debian or Ubuntu. Dunno exactly why tho ^^"

'Cause you never tried Mint!

Quoting: Lightkey

Quoting: slaapliedjeStill not understanding why Pop_OS is considered 'gaming-centric'.
You aren't the only one who says this though. Seriously, Pop just comes with System76 laptops, and is basically a workstation attempt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQDAXyNkCo This dude says the same thing... baffles me. It isn't like they default install steam, scummvm, dosbox, etc.

I guess it isn't, I haven't tried it myself (I'm the typical Debian user, last time I tried out different distributions and compiled my own kernels was in the last millennia, when I also had OS/2 Warp 4 and BeOS installed). From Wikipedia: "It is regarded as an easy distribution to set up for gaming, mainly due to its built-in GPU support."

Ha, I guess. I mean you have an nvidia iso and an intel iso. Wonder what changed at what point in time, as it used to be that distributions couldn't distribute the nvidia driver (which is why it generally isn't pre-installed or 'detected and installed' really much of any place.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: GuestAm I the only one wonder how this adds up to Linux Gaming except of being a Linux distro? o.O

There were just articles for Elementary OS and ZorinOS and now you're asking about this?
Liam always does articles on distros. Often DEs as well. I guess they're what you play games on. And also Liam does not restrict himself--he's always said if he wants to do an article about N, he'll do an article about N. And there's nothing we can do to stop him! Bwahahaha!!!

Well Leap 15.3 he did not cover but yes when reading post abut other DEs or Distros I questioning the same as well :D

And no I don't want to stop anyone in doing what someone likes sorry if this delivered a different message as I intended :/

It's kind of interesting what is picked to be reported about. On the one hand Elementary OS and ZorinOS are trying to do something different, rather than 'just another KDE or Gnome' distribution.

Debian is of course the old die hard. One of the few original Linux distributions that are still being developed/released.

Then you have OpenSuse, which is both old, and and been around a long time. But at the same time, what distributions are based upon it? I'm sure there are some, but besides SLES, I can't think of any. These days it seems it's mostly Debian -> Ubuntu -> Everything else or Arch Linux -> a bunch. Granted the same could be said of RHEL, not much is based on that either (well of course they created their own competitors by taking out CentOS...

Oo, may be time to upgrade this weekend…
I saw a suggestion recently about using Debian stable and using Flatpacks for programs that you want to keep up to date (for me mostly creative programs like KDEnlive, Inkscape, Blender, etc.), so I might try that after upgrading.

Quoting: BogomipsWell python 2 disappeared so check the possible side effects (like DisplayCal that is almost out of all the linux distros now, colord-kde can help at least to put back your icc profiles).

But so far so good for me. And more devices are now detected.

At least, DisplayCAL is available as Flatpak so we can continue colour calibration while waiting for (hopefully) python 3 rewrite.

Quoting: Vulphere

Quoting: BogomipsWell python 2 disappeared so check the possible side effects (like DisplayCal that is almost out of all the linux distros now, colord-kde can help at least to put back your icc profiles).

But so far so good for me. And more devices are now detected.

At least, DisplayCAL is available as Flatpak so we can continue colour calibration while waiting for (hopefully) python 3 rewrite.

Ha, I tried a python2 to python3 conversion page that actually seemed to work on this script I found for downloading the Amiga WHDLoad archive. It 'almost' worked, but was complaining about some UTF-8 character. I think the fix was a bad file in my already downloaded list.

But yeah, python2 is dead.

I still can't get my sogo and apache2 to play nice, otherwise the upgrade from buster to bullseye went relatively smoothly.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: slaapliedjeThen you have OpenSuse, which is both old, and and been around a long time. But at the same time, what distributions are based upon it?

Maybe because it is already awesome and any change would impair it 😄

openSUSE did go through pretty big changes fairly recently, and with successful results. The SUSE company seems to be doing very well also, after a long period of uncertainty.

There's a kind of 'spin' on openSUSE called 'Gecko Linux', which isn't really (& doesn't claim to be) a derived distro or anything; but I've heard really good things about it, re: the default repo/package selection, settings, etc.

I've decided to go back to Tumbleweed last week, and I think I'll stay here for the foreseeable future. I wanted to switch (back to) KDE; & Fedora caused a bunch of mysterious lock-ups; so I used that as an excuse to distro hop again. I've used Tumbleweed on and off ever since it came out; IMHO, it's what any rolling distro should aspire to be. (Seriously, it's got all of Arch's advantages, and none of its BS.)