Valve has remembered they have an official YouTube channel with the release of a new advert for the Steam Deck, plus the Steam Deck gets a nod of approval from an unlikely source.
The first video they've put up here since the last CS:GO operation, it doesn't actually give anything new. However, it's another sign that Valve is actually properly marketing the device (unlike the Steam Machines). Claiming it's the "most powerful gaming handheld in the world" and going on to briefly show off a few game clips we've seen before like Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. It doesn't mention SteamOS, Proton or anything Linux related but simply mentions it runs a "new version of Steam" and ends by telling people to reserve now.
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Additionally, Phil Spencer the head of Xbox mentioned on Twitter about visiting Valve recently to talk to a few developers. Spencer mentioned having access to a Steam Deck for "most of the week" and said "it's a really nice device". It's interesting to see someone from Microsoft / Xbox talk about how well Halo, Age of Empires and xCloud works on a Linux handheld. Just goes to show how exciting the Steam Deck is.
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slaapliedje Aug 15, 2021
Quoting: BielFPsNetflix seems to work through BPM's browser... so there's that.Quoting: Purple Library GuyThat last bit is one question mark I still have about this device, actually.You can expect youtubers making videos like "HOW TO INSTALL NETFLIX IN YOUR STEAMDECK!!!" which in practice is just they teaching how to get through some aur package.
Well, I mean, it's a PC--obviously in general, in the abstract, you can install third party apps (and OSes!) on it. But I'm talking, certain popular third-party things like Netflix, with an absolute minimum of effort, in ways that are downright user-subservient.
Personally I'm ok with that, This way only people interested in tweaking the device will mess with this part, and can encourage users (who are willing to) to learn something from Linux as result.
And of course, giving a hypothetical success scenario, third party companies will start to support those apps officially.
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slaapliedje Aug 15, 2021
Quoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: CatKillerWell that's a good thing, then.Quoting: BielFPsThe demo units they gave to journalists already had the bookmark made.Quoting: CatKillerIt's just visiting Netflix with Steam's built-in browser and adding a bookmark.For you
and mesure, but users will expect something similar to a android app. So you can expect someone to built an electron app with a shinny N icon on it (or maybe a flatpak), which in practice it's the same thing
Oops, I posted too soon. But yes, it just needs a bookmark...
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slaapliedje Aug 15, 2021
Quoting: BielFPsQuoting: CatKillerThe demo units they gave to journalists already had the bookmark made.Nice to know Valve is somewhat worried about it this time, I hope this doesn't involve too much typing with those controls (I don't remember if it's touch screen).
But personally I still expect to some kind of dedicated app (and maybe even inside steam client in the future, who knows...)
This is one of the things I really hate about Android / Mobile devices. There's an app for everything... including things you'd just normally use a web browser for.
I never use the YouTube app (for example) as you can't use ublock to block the ads :P
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Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: HoriAlso, you have to understand that companies as big as MS plan things many years in advance. DX12 was probably planned and approved as a long term strategy for a long time before that happened.
It was a reactionary effort driven by Mantle proposal from AMD. MS literally used Mantle itself for DX12 (I linked the evidence above). So they could simply join Vulkan collaboration instead, but their lock-in mentality still prevailed there.
It worked out better for OpenXR - MS for a change did participate in it.
MS probably knew about Mantle before it has been made public and by then, they could have work on DX12.
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Quoting: ArtenMS probably knew about Mantle before it has been made public and by then, they could have work on DX12.
AMD didn't exactly keep it a secret. They wanted to make it a base for the common API from the early on. Everyone collaborated on it. MS and Apple pushed their NIHs instead knowing very well that it will slow down progress.
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Quoting: HoriQuoting: ShmerlBeing possible and being practical are two completely different things. Do you seriously expect anyone to scrap everything after investing a ton of money with it?Quoting: CatKillerNot really. DX12 was a thing before he got put in charge of Xbox, and Xbox being a thing to push DirectX ("DirectX box") was a thing long before he was in charge....
So he totally was in charge of making the decision whether to collaborate or to push lock-in. And we know what MS did.
...
Especially someone new.
In all likelyhood he couldn't have stopped it even if he wanted to. He'd rather have been replaced with someone else.
Also, you have to understand that companies as big as MS plan things many years in advance. DX12 was probably planned and approved as a long term strategy for a long time before that happened.
PS: I'm not trying to defend him (I know next to nothing about his person, and I am certainly not trying to defend M$.
All in all I think M$ would have still done DX12 and not join Vulkan regardless of timing.
I don't expect scrap it. but what he can probably do is allow vulkan support on xbox...
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gradyvuckovic Aug 16, 2021
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Totally agree!
Quoting: gradyvuckovicNot to mention that it works far better as a marketing strategy to precede a new and totally unknown thing with a real-time showcase of how good it is compared to the existing solutions, instead of trying to convince people to trust you and change their habits based only on the potential that this new unknown thing will turn out to be good.
I can't count* the times I've had people asking me to switch them to Linux after watching me working on my PC and liking what they saw, compared to the times I was successful in convincing someone to switch to Linux because "it's better, you'll see".
(*OK, actually I can count the times because they're really not that many, but hopefully you get my drift :P)
Totally agree!
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gradyvuckovic Aug 16, 2021
Quoting: elmapulvalve was quite smarth in only mentioning "it can play steam games" this time.
if everyone purchased with this goal, people would be less likely to install windows on it.
The news and announcements before were really for the hardcore users. Someone watching Linus Tech Tips to find out about the Deck IS going to ask 'can I put Windows on it?', whereas the kinda person watching an ad on TV? They only need to hear, "Buy this, play your Steam games on it". Totally different demographics, so I get why Valve went with different messaging this time.
Good sign at least, that Valve have thought through the marketing on this device. Because I really want it to be a success.
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microsoft handheld incoming
did he say he used STEAMOS, or was it win11?
i mean why would he have a deck? valve said they working with MS cause of win11, so i guess he has some beta windows11 version on his deck
Last edited by mylka on 16 August 2021 at 12:51 am UTC
did he say he used STEAMOS, or was it win11?
i mean why would he have a deck? valve said they working with MS cause of win11, so i guess he has some beta windows11 version on his deck
Last edited by mylka on 16 August 2021 at 12:51 am UTC
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Quoting: ShmerlGiven Phil Spencer is probably the reason MS didn't back Vulkan but pushed DX12 lock-in instead, it's interesting that he has some positive comments about Steam Deck which relies on breaking that very lock-in.
Or in getting people to install Windows on it. Preferably the super locked-down Windows S.
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