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Another 6 months of development later and GNOME 41 is out with plenty of enhancements for GNOME desktop fans.

"The most notable changes this in release include an improved Software app, new multitasking settings, and enhanced power management features. With these changes, GNOME is smarter, more flexible, and offers a richer and more engaging experience than ever before." - GNOME Team

You will find new selectable power modes between Balanced (the default), Performance and Power Save which can be easily changed using the System Status menu. Meanwhile GNOME Software went through a small overhaul and they say almost every part of it has been improved. Performance is another key point and focus, with many efficiency improvements making it in so it will all feel more responsive (on Wayland). There's also improvements for multitouch, GTK 4 has a new OpenGL renderer which "provides faster rendering and reduced power consumption" and the window manager Mutter got cleaned up for "long-term maintainability and efficiency"

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The new Multitasking settings panel sounds pretty good too, allowing you to fine-tune your experience so you can do things like disabling the Activities overlay hot-corner, you can disable Active Screen Edges (where you drag a window to a side to resize it) and more like being able to show workspaces on all displays instead of just the primary.

Some of the other improvements including:

  • The ability to create encrypted .zip archives in Files (these require a password to be opened).
  • A new Calendar feature that allows importing events from .ics files.
  • Improved support for dark mode in Web, along with faster pinch to zoom (on heavy websites), and better handling of unresponsive websites.
  • Better window resizing in Calculator: enlarging the window will now reveal additional controls, and the window will also shrink down to fit on mobile displays.

Check out the full release notes.

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scaine Sep 22, 2021
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Oddly enough, I've just installed KDE and given it a shot. I'm on it right now and there's a lot to love, but there's still a few things I do miss from my beloved Gnome 3.38. There's no expo when you press the Super key, just some ancient-looking menu that appears. I guess that's more familiar to Windows escapees, but it's jarring after a few years on Gnome-shell.

I also miss a lot of the gnome extensions I ended up relying on. It's early days though, so perhaps I'll find KDE equivalents for these in due course. I had a lovely CPU/Net history thing on my top panel - can't find a good one of those yet. I'll keep searching.

Finally, the panel font in KDE is pretty naff. I'm sure that theme-related, so I'll keep hunting.

All that to say, Gnome is really, really beautiful, and flexible in ways that I think KDE people have previously looked down on a little. But with a bit of work, you could put either in front of me and I'd be a happy penguin.
const Sep 22, 2021
Quoting: scaineOddly enough, I've just installed KDE and given it a shot. I'm on it right now and there's a lot to love, but there's still a few things I do miss from my beloved Gnome 3.38. There's no expo when you press the Super key, just some ancient-looking menu that appears. I guess that's more familiar to Windows escapees, but it's jarring after a few years on Gnome-shell.

I also miss a lot of the gnome extensions I ended up relying on. It's early days though, so perhaps I'll find KDE equivalents for these in due course. I had a lovely CPU/Net history thing on my top panel - can't find a good one of those yet. I'll keep searching.

Finally, the panel font in KDE is pretty naff. I'm sure that theme-related, so I'll keep hunting.

All that to say, Gnome is really, really beautiful, and flexible in ways that I think KDE people have previously looked down on a little. But with a bit of work, you could put either in front of me and I'd be a happy penguin.
You can configure it, e.g. in System settings->Shortcuts->kwin->show windows of current desktop (My desktop is german, so names may be slightly different). I found it to be a little buggy sometimes and it seems you can't bind it to "meta" directly anymore, but maybe meta-ctrl or something similar would work for you? I can absolutely understand why you miss it. Same for me, amazing feature once you get used to it.


Last edited by const on 22 September 2021 at 5:49 pm UTC
wvstolzing Sep 22, 2021
Quoting: const
Quoting: scaineOddly enough, I've just installed KDE and given it a shot. I'm on it right now and there's a lot to love, but there's still a few things I do miss from my beloved Gnome 3.38. There's no expo when you press the Super key, just some ancient-looking menu that appears. I guess that's more familiar to Windows escapees, but it's jarring after a few years on Gnome-shell.

I also miss a lot of the gnome extensions I ended up relying on. It's early days though, so perhaps I'll find KDE equivalents for these in due course. I had a lovely CPU/Net history thing on my top panel - can't find a good one of those yet. I'll keep searching.

Finally, the panel font in KDE is pretty naff. I'm sure that theme-related, so I'll keep hunting.

All that to say, Gnome is really, really beautiful, and flexible in ways that I think KDE people have previously looked down on a little. But with a bit of work, you could put either in front of me and I'd be a happy penguin.
You can configure it, e.g. in System settings->Shortcuts->kwin->show windows of current desktop (My desktop is german, so names may be slightly different). I found it to be a little buggy sometimes and it seems you can't bind it to "meta" directly anymore, but maybe meta-ctrl or something similar would work for you? I can absolutely understand why you miss it. Same for me, amazing feature once you get used to it.

The English edition calls it 'Present Windows'. On Plasma there's a per-application mode as well (in addition to per-desktop, & all-desktops), which I find extremely useful. (Something that I've missed since OS X Snow Leopard)

As to panel applets, I use this net speed widget: https://github.com/dfaust/plasma-applet-netspeed-widget — it's very minimalistic, but it looks nice & simple. Depending on your distro, you may have to install ksysguard separately to make the probes, so to speak, function.

Edit: It's also possible to spread all virtual desktops on a grid with present windows activated on all of them; the feature is called 'Desktop Grid' under 'Desktop Effects'. I think it's pretty confusing to put functionality like this under the 'effects' heading, though, which more appropriately contains controls for blur & transparency levels, etc.

By the way, desktop settings will get several updates when Plasma 5.83 comes out in a few weeks.


Last edited by wvstolzing on 22 September 2021 at 6:08 pm UTC
slaapliedje Sep 22, 2021
Quoting: const
Quoting: SchattenspiegelJupp, that video captures the spirit of the DE - it leaves me similarly confused and angry.

Is DE bashing considered a hobby by now? Really boring.
I really like gnome shell but usually prefer alternative applications to stuff like Nautilus(?Files?), Evolution, etc. I'm currently on KDE, but maybe I'll switch back to gnome, soon :)
Evolution still seems to be the best / most stable groupware program for Linux. Every time I use kmail I want to call it Outlook... And well Outlook I think is the biggest pile of shit to ever stink up my desktop.
slaapliedje Sep 22, 2021
Quoting: const
Quoting: scaineOddly enough, I've just installed KDE and given it a shot. I'm on it right now and there's a lot to love, but there's still a few things I do miss from my beloved Gnome 3.38. There's no expo when you press the Super key, just some ancient-looking menu that appears. I guess that's more familiar to Windows escapees, but it's jarring after a few years on Gnome-shell.

I also miss a lot of the gnome extensions I ended up relying on. It's early days though, so perhaps I'll find KDE equivalents for these in due course. I had a lovely CPU/Net history thing on my top panel - can't find a good one of those yet. I'll keep searching.

Finally, the panel font in KDE is pretty naff. I'm sure that theme-related, so I'll keep hunting.

All that to say, Gnome is really, really beautiful, and flexible in ways that I think KDE people have previously looked down on a little. But with a bit of work, you could put either in front of me and I'd be a happy penguin.
You can configure it, e.g. in System settings->Shortcuts->kwin->show windows of current desktop (My desktop is german, so names may be slightly different). I found it to be a little buggy sometimes and it seems you can't bind it to "meta" directly anymore, but maybe meta-ctrl or something similar would work for you? I can absolutely understand why you miss it. Same for me, amazing feature once you get used to it.
Yeah I use the 'activities' screen as a replacement for needing a task bar. Works wonders, and is as intended. Giant box with icons on it seems to take up far more space than a thin bar at the top for me... Which is also why whenever I try out one of the other custom Gnome distros, I end up ripping out the custom session and using standard gnome-session, the way our gnome overlords chose. Though with Gnome 4x, I do install the vertical desktop as I hate the dash/dock at the bottom!
scirocco Sep 22, 2021
Gnome 41 is stupidly fast compared to 40, sadly tho I got a flicker bug in gdm and in games so not usuable for me yet.
slaapliedje Sep 22, 2021
Quoting: sciroccoGnome 41 is stupidly fast compared to 40, sadly tho I got a flicker bug in gdm and in games so not usuable for me yet.
Is Games ever going to be usable? Every time I have tried it just tells me that the backends aren't supported yet.
ridge Sep 22, 2021
Would really love to try GNOME on some of my devices, but I hate the top bar and want a traditional panel on the bottom.. It's what keeps me using KDE on 100% of my computers.
No, I do not consider tweaking/hacking the shell an option :P


Last edited by ridge on 22 September 2021 at 8:19 pm UTC
const Sep 22, 2021
Quoting: slaapliedje
Quoting: const
Quoting: SchattenspiegelJupp, that video captures the spirit of the DE - it leaves me similarly confused and angry.

Is DE bashing considered a hobby by now? Really boring.
I really like gnome shell but usually prefer alternative applications to stuff like Nautilus(?Files?), Evolution, etc. I'm currently on KDE, but maybe I'll switch back to gnome, soon :)
Evolution still seems to be the best / most stable groupware program for Linux. Every time I use kmail I want to call it Outlook... And well Outlook I think is the biggest pile of shit to ever stink up my desktop.
This might very well be true, but I use thunderbird since ages and see no reason to switch. Yet I had to keep evolution as gnome depends on it for the clock... not sure if that's still the case.
const Sep 22, 2021
Quoting: ridgeWould really love to try GNOME on some of my devices, but I hate the top bar and want a traditional panel on the bottom.. It's what keeps me using KDE on 100% of my computers.
No, I do not consider tweaking/hacking the shell an option :P
Installing a gnome shell extension like dash to panel neither?
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