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One of the big highlight changes is the upgrade to GNOME 40, with all the design changes there like the new Activities Overview, workspaces are arranged horizontally and the overview and app grid are accessed vertically. With a little Ubuntu flavour of course thanks to Canonical continuing to include a dock on the left side of the screen.
They've also enabled Wayland support with NVIDIA drivers, PulseAudio upgrades with support for bluetooth LDAC and AptX bluetooth and HFP profiles, upgrades to lots of the main applications like Firefox 92, LibreOffice 7.2.1 and Thunderbird 91.1.1. Click to enlarge the below pictures:
An interesting change and one that will likely cause a stir is that Firefox has moved to a Snap package, instead of the usual deb packaging. This is a joint effort between Mozilla and Canonical, while the deb package is still available so users of it will still get updated. You will only be affected if you've done an install of Ubuntu 21.10 or later. Explaining why in a post a few notes were pointed out:
- Cross-platform support: The snap will run on all distributions that run snapd - now and in the future
- Authenticity: You’re getting Firefox, unadulterated, straight from the source
- Effortless updates: Get security updates from Mozilla, fast
- Less time on maintenance, more time for features: Community developers can focus on innovation, instead of being mired in support
Currently it's using Mesa 21.2.1 and Kernel 5.13.
If you do decide to install it, worry not about how to get the final release. All you will need to do is keep updating the system to get the latest.
You can download here. See their currently unfinished release notes. The full release is scheduled for October 14. Since this is not a Long-Term Support release it will have support end in July 2022. The next LTS release will be Ubuntu 22.04 scheduled to release April 21, 2022.
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Fester_Mudd Sep 24, 2021
Quoting: GuestUbuntu will get a lot of hate for the switch to snap for Firefox even though this is driven by Mozilla and a lot of the arguments used against it just aren't true anymore. Frankly I think it this move makes perfect sense and I would wager that the vast majority of users won't even notice the change
It does make perfect sense but you know haters will hate. They can use whatever they fish if they don't like what's being offered. Sadly they don't seem to get this in the midst of their negativity i suppose
I never had issues with snaps nor flatpaks!!
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The quote below is enough for one to say "No thanks" :D
Not that it would be the only reason, there are already many to list, starting with the... distro's name...
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default
Last edited by sudoer on 24 September 2021 at 9:02 am UTC
Not that it would be the only reason, there are already many to list, starting with the... distro's name...
QuoteMigrating the single most critical pieces of software on an Ubuntu install to a package format regularly criticised as slow and buggy is a brave move.
So hey: kudos for that.
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/ubuntu-makes-firefox-snap-default
Last edited by sudoer on 24 September 2021 at 9:02 am UTC
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dziadulewicz Sep 24, 2021
bashing snaps has now officially gotten old.
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Quoting: GuestUbuntu will get a lot of hate for the switch to snap for Firefox even though this is driven by Mozilla and a lot of the arguments used against it just aren't true anymore. Frankly I think it this move makes perfect sense and I would wager that the vast majority of users won't even notice the change
I'd say the major problem I encountered are slow first starts of applications. BUT: this seems more an issue of the packaged application and not Snap per se. Blender as snap starts pretty much instantly. Chrome was once utterly atrocious, now I have a two or three seconds overhead. The Zoom client is about the same. Jetbrains IDEs went from "quite acceptable" to total garbage (we are talking about 1 minute or more startup time on an SSD system - starting it from their own launcher takes a mere seconds). Subsequent starts were/are always fast.
As far as "resource hunger" goes: Both memory footprint and mass storage usage hardly make a difference (if packaged properly).
PHPStorm will eat up <500MB as (compressed) snap package and 1.4GB as (uncompressed) binaries.
Last edited by Tuxee on 24 September 2021 at 10:02 am UTC
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Quoting: dziadulewiczbashing snaps has now officially gotten old.
old as the last week... sooooooooooo old.
snap & flat are unusable on my (4 years old) laptop: slow as snails, kilotons of memory needed, bugs/freezing etc.
But yeah, on my 4k€ gear at work, no trouble...
after, you can spam the discussion with your good feelings, saying that's not snap. But whatever, if snap allows bad utilizations, thus it means it is rotten by design.
Will try again in one month on my laptop. With the truly hope to change my mind on snap
edit:
by reading a bit, you find these gems:
Quote(17 September 2021) Ubuntu removed a couple of Snap apps it loaded by default due to their (comparatively) poor performance and quirky behaviour to repo versions.
Quotenice discussionbut it is soooooo old bashing snap
Jorge Castro @castrojo 25 juil. 2021: It just took _10 full seconds_ for 1password to launch on my desktop, in case you were wondering if Canonical is working on performance for snapd.
Alan Pope @popey 25 juil. 2021: They get ignored or dismissed. The CTO flat doesn't believe there's a problem. The team is understanffed and there is no motivation from IoT and enterprise focused people to fix desktop problems. Been trying from the inside for *years*. I gave up hope and left.
Last edited by Geppeto35 on 24 September 2021 at 12:25 pm UTC
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Quoting: Guesti heard snaps are propreitary. is that true?
No. They are not. The Snap Store is not Open Source.
If you want to check the rest of the code:
https://github.com/snapcore
Edit: Naturally you can bundle proprietary software as snaps - which is probably their prime use case.
Edit 2: It seems as if Mozilla preferred the packaging as snap.
Last edited by Tuxee on 24 September 2021 at 3:27 pm UTC
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Well, I'd whine about this. But Firefox seems to be rotting to death anyway. It's a pity, because fundamentally I like Firefox better. I like how its UI behaves more than I like Chrome, especially around how it handles going full screen, so if both were equally functional I'd stick to Firefox. But I've been forced more and more to switch to Chrome (or rather, at home at least, Chromium) because I hit more and more websites Firefox just doesn't manage to load, or can't show article comments, or stuff. It's like I'm constantly having to copy the url and paste it into Chrome. So at the rate things are going it may not matter how it's packaged.
Not like I use Ubuntu, or snaps, so it's not really my business anyway I suppose.
Not like I use Ubuntu, or snaps, so it's not really my business anyway I suppose.
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Quoting: Purple Library GuyBut I've been forced more and more to switch to Chrome (or rather, at home at least, Chromium) because I hit more and more websites Firefox just doesn't manage to load, or can't show article comments, or stuff.
Could you share some examples? Being a web developer I would be genuinely interested in such pages, because so far I haven't come across such websites (or rather these which showed quirks showed - different - quirks in Blink based browsers, too). And since I web development is my daily job, I'd say nowadays you have to put in some real effort to get something to work on Chrom(e|ium) but not on Firefox.
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Been using snap version for Firefox, Thunderbird, VLC, and Libreoffice since the beginning. They have been really great in my experience. All those arguments about slow startup, not looking part of the system are pretty much moot at the point.
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Quoting: TuxeeHuh. Maybe it has something to do with extensions, then. Perhaps I'm typically using an adblock on Firefox but not Chrome? I should do a bit of experimenting.Quoting: Purple Library GuyBut I've been forced more and more to switch to Chrome (or rather, at home at least, Chromium) because I hit more and more websites Firefox just doesn't manage to load, or can't show article comments, or stuff.
Could you share some examples? Being a web developer I would be genuinely interested in such pages, because so far I haven't come across such websites (or rather these which showed quirks showed - different - quirks in Blink based browsers, too). And since I web development is my daily job, I'd say nowadays you have to put in some real effort to get something to work on Chrom(e|ium) but not on Firefox.
Examples that stand out in my mind are articles on the CBC website (that's Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Canada's BBC equivalent), where Chrome seems to show the conversation threads below but Firefox does not, and EBSCO, a major player in scholarly journal publication. I work in a university library and often have reasons to follow links to articles in our holdings. Chrome shows Ebsco articles no problem, Firefox shows a blank page. The problems seem to be the same on Windows at work and on Linux at home.
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