The Humble Be the Bad Guy Bundle has Dungeons 3, Postal and more

I have no interest in being the bad guy. I never really understood the appeal.

I have no interest in being the bad guy. I never really understood the appeal.

Because it is fun, to be able to play the "other side".
Besides, games where you don't kill/smash anything are rare, beside maybe sport and pure "puzzles".

Out of curiosity, which games do you play ?

I have no interest in being the bad guy. I never really understood the appeal.

Because it is fun, to be able to play the "other side".
Besides, games where you don't kill/smash anything are rare, beside maybe sport and pure "puzzles".

Out of curiosity, which games do you play ?

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"It's good to be bad"
- Dungeon Keeper

I'd consider it if it had the Definitive Edition of the 1st Mafia.

Not a big bundle this time with only 6 titles in total.

Well it's even smaller for users living in Germany. Postal 1, 2 are banned here.

I have no interest in being the bad guy. I never really understood the appeal.

The whole point is not being who you are.

Tho the bundle does feel a bit off, there could be a few more titles in to work out the classic low-cost part rather than having an empty section.

Mafia 1 comes to mind, but Dungeon Keeper (1 or 2, don't need a steam key), maybe the other Dungeons title, for sure something like Brigador has a place there, but nope.

I just think the bundle is pretty underwhelming, the games themselves aren't necessary bad (tho the Dungeons didn't let me a great memory), I've never truly got the point of the other Mafia games. The Postal games (at least the second one) are a weird fit (since basically everyone and everything is crazy and fucked up in this game), and I own them anyway...

Like Legend of Keepers is the sole title I think is interesting, but I may as well wait another discount (which defeat the point of humble bundle's timed offers)

I have no interest in being the bad guy. I never really understood the appeal.

Because it is fun, to be able to play the "other side".
Besides, games where you don't kill/smash anything are rare, beside maybe sport and pure "puzzles".

Out of curiosity, which games do you play ?

I understand the point, just not the appeal.

I also can understand games (or other media) that gives you a different perspective about scenarios that are really highly dependent on your point of view. A lot of conflicts are carried out entirely by people who think of themselves as the good guys. I just don't see the appeal of playing as someone who is obviously a bad guy. For example, the whole GTA series is completely lost on me. Never played them; never wanted to.

I play a lot of different games, not all of them free of violence.

I just don't see the appeal of playing as someone who is obviously a bad guy. For example, the whole GTA series is completely lost on me. Never played them; never wanted to.

I play a lot of different games, not all of them free of violence.

I guess you are suggesting that a protagonist in the GTA series is "obviously a bad guy." That seems to be "highly dependent on your point of view" as well. Certainly, they do bad things, but so do a lot of "heroes." A lot of games have protagonists who run around killing people but aren't coded as "criminals."

I just don't see the appeal of playing as someone who is obviously a bad guy. For example, the whole GTA series is completely lost on me. Never played them; never wanted to.

I play a lot of different games, not all of them free of violence.

I guess you are suggesting that a protagonist in the GTA series is "obviously a bad guy." That seems to be "highly dependent on your point of view" as well. Certainly, they do bad things, but so do a lot of "heroes." A lot of games have protagonists who run around killing people but aren't coded as "criminals."

Nonsense. The people who do things like those portrayed in GTA don't think they are the good guys. They just don't care about being the good guys. They might sometimes rationalize it that they have excuses, but that's not the same thing as thinking they are doing good.


Last edited by CFWhitman on 17 September 2021 at 1:36 pm UTC

I just don't see the appeal of playing as someone who is obviously a bad guy. For example, the whole GTA series is completely lost on me. Never played them; never wanted to.

I play a lot of different games, not all of them free of violence.

I guess you are suggesting that a protagonist in the GTA series is "obviously a bad guy." That seems to be "highly dependent on your point of view" as well. Certainly, they do bad things, but so do a lot of "heroes." A lot of games have protagonists who run around killing people but aren't coded as "criminals."

Nonsense. The people who do things like those portrayed in GTA don't think they are the good guys. They just don't care about being the good guys. They might sometimes rationalize it that they have excuses, but that's not the same thing as thinking they are doing good.

That's not what I said, but let me put it to you this way. I have worked in the criminal justice system for the last 12 years. I've encountered many people who take responsibility for criminal acts, and many who recognize that they did a bad thing. I have never met a person who considers himself a "bad guy" because of his criminal record. Further, I have rarely met a person I didn't think had the capacity for good, even if they had an extensive history of doing bad things.


Last edited by areamanplaysgame on 17 September 2021 at 3:28 pm UTC

I just don't see the appeal of playing as someone who is obviously a bad guy. For example, the whole GTA series is completely lost on me. Never played them; never wanted to.

I play a lot of different games, not all of them free of violence.

I guess you are suggesting that a protagonist in the GTA series is "obviously a bad guy." That seems to be "highly dependent on your point of view" as well. Certainly, they do bad things, but so do a lot of "heroes." A lot of games have protagonists who run around killing people but aren't coded as "criminals."

Nonsense. The people who do things like those portrayed in GTA don't think they are the good guys. They just don't care about being the good guys. They might sometimes rationalize it that they have excuses, but that's not the same thing as thinking they are doing good.

That's not what I said, but let me put it to you this way. I have worked in the criminal justice system for the last 12 years. I've encountered many people who take responsibility for criminal acts, and many who recognize that they did a bad thing. I have never met a person who considers himself a "bad guy" because of his criminal record. Further, I have rarely met a person I didn't think had the capacity for good, even if they had an extensive history of doing bad things.

Really you're going off on a tangent here. You just said that these people recognize that they did a bad thing. That means that they know that while they were doing it they were 'being the bad guy.' That's not the same thing as a judgment of their life's worth, i.e. saying that they are 'bad guys' altogether. I didn't pick out that terminology; that's just the name of the bundle. This isn't a philosophical discussion on whether people can find redemption for their crimes. I just don't enjoy playing games where my motive in the game is completely selfish/criminal/evil.

I just don't see the appeal of playing as someone who is obviously a bad guy. For example, the whole GTA series is completely lost on me. Never played them; never wanted to.

I play a lot of different games, not all of them free of violence.

I guess you are suggesting that a protagonist in the GTA series is "obviously a bad guy." That seems to be "highly dependent on your point of view" as well. Certainly, they do bad things, but so do a lot of "heroes." A lot of games have protagonists who run around killing people but aren't coded as "criminals."

Nonsense. The people who do things like those portrayed in GTA don't think they are the good guys. They just don't care about being the good guys. They might sometimes rationalize it that they have excuses, but that's not the same thing as thinking they are doing good.

That's not what I said, but let me put it to you this way. I have worked in the criminal justice system for the last 12 years. I've encountered many people who take responsibility for criminal acts, and many who recognize that they did a bad thing. I have never met a person who considers himself a "bad guy" because of his criminal record. Further, I have rarely met a person I didn't think had the capacity for good, even if they had an extensive history of doing bad things.

Really you're going off on a tangent here. You just said that these people recognize that they did a bad thing. That means that they know that while they were doing it they were 'being the bad guy.' That's not the same thing as a judgment of their life's worth, i.e. saying that they are 'bad guys' altogether. I didn't pick out that terminology; that's just the name of the bundle. This isn't a philosophical discussion on whether people can find redemption for their crimes. I just don't enjoy playing games where my motive in the game is completely selfish/criminal/evil.

It's a philosophical discussion on the nature of good and evil, and you started it. Your claim was that there are some situations where the morality of your actions is subjective. The fact is, that's most situations. Very few people do things with the intention of being evil. You then equated breaking laws with being "bad," which is a whole other can of worms. But I'll leave it at that.

I just don't see the appeal of playing as someone who is obviously a bad guy. For example, the whole GTA series is completely lost on me. Never played them; never wanted to.

I play a lot of different games, not all of them free of violence.

I guess you are suggesting that a protagonist in the GTA series is "obviously a bad guy." That seems to be "highly dependent on your point of view" as well. Certainly, they do bad things, but so do a lot of "heroes." A lot of games have protagonists who run around killing people but aren't coded as "criminals."

Nonsense. The people who do things like those portrayed in GTA don't think they are the good guys. They just don't care about being the good guys. They might sometimes rationalize it that they have excuses, but that's not the same thing as thinking they are doing good.

That's not what I said, but let me put it to you this way. I have worked in the criminal justice system for the last 12 years. I've encountered many people who take responsibility for criminal acts, and many who recognize that they did a bad thing. I have never met a person who considers himself a "bad guy" because of his criminal record. Further, I have rarely met a person I didn't think had the capacity for good, even if they had an extensive history of doing bad things.

Really you're going off on a tangent here. You just said that these people recognize that they did a bad thing. That means that they know that while they were doing it they were 'being the bad guy.' That's not the same thing as a judgment of their life's worth, i.e. saying that they are 'bad guys' altogether. I didn't pick out that terminology; that's just the name of the bundle. This isn't a philosophical discussion on whether people can find redemption for their crimes. I just don't enjoy playing games where my motive in the game is completely selfish/criminal/evil.

It's a philosophical discussion on the nature of good and evil, and you started it. Your claim was that there are some situations where the morality of your actions is subjective. The fact is, that's most situations. Very few people do things with the intention of being evil. You then equated breaking laws with being "bad," which is a whole other can of worms. But I'll leave it at that.

While I said that there have been many conflicts over the years where both sides thought they were right, I disagree about the morality of your actions being subjective most of the time. Most of the time it's not very subjective. The only reason I brought up the subjectivity of it is to make it clear I'm talking about games where it's not subjective, such as GTA and games where you are clearly taking on the role of "the bad guy" for the duration of the game, even according to the game's developers. I did not intend to explore the tangent of moral subjectivity or the tangent of judging real-life criminals.


Last edited by CFWhitman on 18 September 2021 at 8:16 pm UTC