Fallout 3 from Bethesda Game Studios received a surprise update recently where the developer finally removed Games for Windows Live which is great news.
Released back in 2008, Fallout 3 is something of a classic and a game I thoroughly enjoyed before making the switch fully to Linux. Thanks to Steam Play Proton, you can play Fallout 3 easily on Linux and with this update no workarounds are needed - at all.
Testing out Fallout 3 myself today with Proton Experimental, it worked right out of the box. No launch options required, and where previously some needed to mess around with a dll file - it just works. Even the in-game radio stations appear to now work correctly too which were problematic before.
If you need me I shall once again be exploring the wasteland…
You can buy it on Steam.
If it got better, this is really good, otherwise, I guess it's a fine update, but the real strength of the game lying in the moddability, it'd really help.
Quoting: CyrilWas it the same with the GOG version?According to the comments on the GoG page, Games for Windows Live was removed from that version a long time ago (2017). I'm pretty sure GfWL goes against the spirit of GoG's DRM free policies.
If its the GoG version then its fine for modding but then its the recompiled version for Bethesda.net and Xbox pass you will have not much fun with modding first post on the comment site
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62552?tab=posts
I would use vortex/MO2 Fomm is really old and most new mods does not work with the installer.
Quoting: slaapliedjeI thought this happened a long time ago (the removal of Games for Windows). Like back when that service was murdered. Think of all those old games that had integrated this garbage, and the other one that died, Gamespy... definitely made a large section of software unplayable. But I know when it happened years ago, that most things that had any sort of community had Games for Windows removed.
No different to the fact that if Steam were to go bust all our games would not work either, not downloadable.
Anyway, even though with all the bugs, the somewhat wrongly written story, and Fallout Vegas being much better just a couple of years later, I loved Fallout 3 to pieces.
Quoting: ArehandoroNo, I'd say it's somewhat different. If you have a game that had GfWL integrated it wouldn't matter how much warning you had, there would be nothing you could do to make your game work once GfWL went away.Quoting: slaapliedjeI thought this happened a long time ago (the removal of Games for Windows). Like back when that service was murdered. Think of all those old games that had integrated this garbage, and the other one that died, Gamespy... definitely made a large section of software unplayable. But I know when it happened years ago, that most things that had any sort of community had Games for Windows removed.
No different to the fact that if Steam were to go bust all our games would not work either, not downloadable.
If you own a Steam game and Valve goes under, unless it's amazingly sudden you can, like, download the game before they finish dying. Sure, if you have massive numbers of games that would take ridiculous amounts of storage you might have to buy a big hard drive or something. But if you purchased that many games you are not poor, so whatever. And if you bought a bunch of games with no plans to have enough storage to so much as download them, it's really on you; I'm actually kind of in that boat, but I don't tell myself it's Valve's responsibility--the decision to not fully take ownership of those games by putting a copy on my own computer was mine, not Valve's.
Quoting: slaapliedjeI thought this happened a long time ago (the removal of Games for Windows).Ironically this only happened after Microsoft itself bought the company
i mean, they purchased zenimax media who own bethesda...
so this patch was after they were acquired by microsoft, looks like microsoft is cooperating o.o"
Some memories are better left untouched.
Quoting: ArehandoroNo different to the fact that if Steam were to go bust all our games would not work either, not downloadable.
Assuming that you have many of your games already downloaded, they will still work just fine (except some Feral titles). Some may require the Goldberg emulator to run but that's about it.
Quoting: Purple Library GuyQuoting: ArehandoroNo, I'd say it's somewhat different. If you have a game that had GfWL integrated it wouldn't matter how much warning you had, there would be nothing you could do to make your game work once GfWL went away.Quoting: slaapliedjeI thought this happened a long time ago (the removal of Games for Windows). Like back when that service was murdered. Think of all those old games that had integrated this garbage, and the other one that died, Gamespy... definitely made a large section of software unplayable. But I know when it happened years ago, that most things that had any sort of community had Games for Windows removed.
No different to the fact that if Steam were to go bust all our games would not work either, not downloadable.
If you own a Steam game and Valve goes under, unless it's amazingly sudden you can, like, download the game before they finish dying. Sure, if you have massive numbers of games that would take ridiculous amounts of storage you might have to buy a big hard drive or something. But if you purchased that many games you are not poor, so whatever. And if you bought a bunch of games with no plans to have enough storage to so much as download them, it's really on you; I'm actually kind of in that boat, but I don't tell myself it's Valve's responsibility--the decision to not fully take ownership of those games by putting a copy on my own computer was mine, not Valve's.
When I had Fallout 3 on PC, on Windows back then, I didn't purchase the game. There was a crack that allowed me to play without GfWL. To play Steam games offline, even if we were to have ALL games on our HDDs, we would need Goldberg Emulator, which to me is nothing more than another crack to bypass the online features of Steam.
Therefore, saving the difference in features, and not counting all the things Valve have done for the gaming community, etc, requiring Steam to play a game is not different as requiring GfWL.
Quoting: robvvQuoting: ArehandoroNo different to the fact that if Steam were to go bust all our games would not work either, not downloadable.
Assuming that you have many of your games already downloaded, they will still work just fine (except some Feral titles). Some may require the Goldberg emulator to run but that's about it.
Without Goldberg Emulator after a giving time you wouldn't be able to log in to Steam, and not all games work directly with the executable without Steam. Not counting all the features integrated that games have that rely on Steam.
Quoting: ArehandoroQuoting: robvvQuoting: ArehandoroNo different to the fact that if Steam were to go bust all our games would not work either, not downloadable.
Assuming that you have many of your games already downloaded, they will still work just fine (except some Feral titles). Some may require the Goldberg emulator to run but that's about it.
Without Goldberg Emulator after a giving time you wouldn't be able to log in to Steam, and not all games work directly with the executable without Steam. Not counting all the features integrated that games have that rely on Steam.
If Steam shuts down, I have no doubt some open source project will spring up and implement the API. People won't just let so many games go to waste.
Last edited by ShabbyX on 16 October 2021 at 8:30 pm UTC
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