Valve launches Deck Verified, to show off what games will work well on the Steam Deck

Quoting: CFWhitman

Quoting: elmapulagain, that was an retraction from their first message.

The way I remember their first message was that one hundred percent Steam compatibility* was their eventual goal for the Steam Deck rather than a "promise" of the state of things when the Steam Deck first shipped. Of course they should have known how people tend to hear what they want to hear.

*(Of course this would be with the obvious caveat of the form factor not being appropriate for certain games such as VR titles.)

actually, it might have been "playable"
but their definion of playable is not the same as verified...

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: CFWhitman

Quoting: elmapulagain, that was an retraction from their first message.

The way I remember their first message was that one hundred percent Steam compatibility* was their eventual goal for the Steam Deck rather than a "promise" of the state of things when the Steam Deck first shipped. Of course they should have known how people tend to hear what they want to hear.

*(Of course this would be with the obvious caveat of the form factor not being appropriate for certain games such as VR titles.)

actually, it might have been "playable"
but their definion of playable is not the same as verified...

VR exclusive games are always marked unsupported on the deck even if they could run perfectly on Linux or even on the deck's hardware. This is said explicitly in the valve video.

Quoting: natis1

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: CFWhitman

Quoting: elmapulagain, that was an retraction from their first message.

The way I remember their first message was that one hundred percent Steam compatibility* was their eventual goal for the Steam Deck rather than a "promise" of the state of things when the Steam Deck first shipped. Of course they should have known how people tend to hear what they want to hear.

*(Of course this would be with the obvious caveat of the form factor not being appropriate for certain games such as VR titles.)

actually, it might have been "playable"
but their definion of playable is not the same as verified...

VR exclusive games are always marked unsupported on the deck even if they could run perfectly on Linux or even on the deck's hardware. This is said explicitly in the valve video.

i'm not complaining about it, the issue is:
when they said their goal was everything will be playable at launch, i was expecting then to try to fix the remaining bugs.

the game works, but any game cutscene dont work , count as playable?
or the full screen dont work?
or the sound effects dont work?

Just happened to read something I haven't tought about... Could we witness the creation of a Steam Deck market place for game themed Micro SDXC cards sold with said game preinstalled on it? Might not be really ecologic, but it could be nice. The 64GB Steam Deck could greatly benefit from that.. The challenge would be to not lose them.

Just a tought.


Last edited by Mohandevir on 29 October 2021 at 7:03 pm UTC

Well, we’ve already seen CDs sold in fake books, thumb drives as keychains, and flash drives in credit cards to make them easier to carry and find... I wouldn’t be surprised to see something similar being done for the Deck if it reaches a sufficiently large userbase, if only as a collector item or Kickstarter exclusive. Pretty hard to make an anything-themed microSDXC considering the form factor and the fact you won’t see it while it’s in use, but as a piece you take out of a bigger collector item, it could work.

I imagine the appeal would be bigger for heavy 100 GB+ games in places with slow/capped Internet, though in this day and age the files would already be outdated and require a patch by the time they reach consumers anyway. Besides that, it would just be a more expensive drive to store more games on. GameCube memory cards served a similar function but you could see their stickers while they were plugged in, and on some of them write down the games (saves) within.

I could imagine them being used to sell bundles of smaller Linux-native store-agnostic games, or with accompanying Steam keys, e.g. "20 kid-friendly games for you child’s Deck" or "the complete [insert franchise here] collection on the go", but just typing this makes it sound gimmicky as hell, like those cheap movies and games in cereal boxes back in the day.

Quoting: SalvatosWell, we’ve already seen CDs sold in fake books, thumb drives as keychains, and flash drives in credit cards to make them easier to carry and find... I wouldn’t be surprised to see something similar being done for the Deck if it reaches a sufficiently large userbase, if only as a collector item or Kickstarter exclusive. Pretty hard to make an anything-themed microSDXC considering the form factor and the fact you won’t see it while it’s in use, but as a piece you take out of a bigger collector item, it could work.

I imagine the appeal would be bigger for heavy 100 GB+ games in places with slow/capped Internet, though in this day and age the files would already be outdated and require a patch by the time they reach consumers anyway. Besides that, it would just be a more expensive drive to store more games on. GameCube memory cards served a similar function but you could see their stickers while they were plugged in, and on some of them write down the games (saves) within.

I could imagine them being used to sell bundles of smaller Linux-native store-agnostic games, or with accompanying Steam keys, e.g. "20 kid-friendly games for you child’s Deck" or "the complete [insert franchise here] collection on the go", but just typing this makes it sound gimmicky as hell, like those cheap movies and games in cereal boxes back in the day.

Probably.

In fact, it comes from a video I saw of someone who 3D printed a microsd card holder for his futur Steam Deck... It could hold 20 cards approx... It made me wonder how he could easily identify them if he's got, let's say, 10 cards... Tought about a game/brand logo on each cards...

Personnally, I'll get the 512gb model, so not really an issue for me, anyway.

Quoting: GuestThe chosen terms are not very clear to me.
"Verified, Playable, Unsupported and Unknown"
Is "Playable" better or worse than "Verified"? What does "verified" even mean? It could mean it has been verified as not working.
"Unsupported", ok, but it doesn’t tell if it’s working or not.
"Unknown" is of course not helping much either.

I’m not asking for the answers, just saying they should choose terms that immediately make sense.

Aren't you a bit pedantic now? I thought it was pretty clear... Green checkmark -> Verified fully working. This is the status we want to see all around. "Playable" - how would a game be if you described it as playable? There's some issues but it's playable still, right?
"Unsupported" is unclear, I'll give you that. But "unknown" can't be more clear can it? The status is unknown to this curator, it's untested, not yet classified.

Quoting: Mohandevir

Quoting: SalvatosWell, we’ve already seen CDs sold in fake books, thumb drives as keychains, and flash drives in credit cards to make them easier to carry and find... I wouldn’t be surprised to see something similar being done for the Deck if it reaches a sufficiently large userbase, if only as a collector item or Kickstarter exclusive. Pretty hard to make an anything-themed microSDXC considering the form factor and the fact you won’t see it while it’s in use, but as a piece you take out of a bigger collector item, it could work.

I imagine the appeal would be bigger for heavy 100 GB+ games in places with slow/capped Internet, though in this day and age the files would already be outdated and require a patch by the time they reach consumers anyway. Besides that, it would just be a more expensive drive to store more games on. GameCube memory cards served a similar function but you could see their stickers while they were plugged in, and on some of them write down the games (saves) within.

I could imagine them being used to sell bundles of smaller Linux-native store-agnostic games, or with accompanying Steam keys, e.g. "20 kid-friendly games for you child’s Deck" or "the complete [insert franchise here] collection on the go", but just typing this makes it sound gimmicky as hell, like those cheap movies and games in cereal boxes back in the day.

Probably.

In fact, it comes from a video I saw of someone who 3D printed a microsd card holder for his futur Steam Deck... It could hold 20 cards approx... It made me wonder how he could easily identify them if he's got, let's say, 10 cards... Tought about a game/brand logo on each cards...

Personnally, I'll get the 512gb model, so not really an issue for me, anyway.

Ha, and here I am ordering a 2TB m.2 drive for my main system, as I keep running out of disk space with 1tb of SATA SSD.

Quoting: KorsI'm counting on Steam Deck to skyrocket Linux usage, or at least to bring more games to linux based OS

maybe if it a big seller then developers such as microsoft sony & ubisoft may start making their games support proton but they wont target linux they will hopefully target the middleware that proton handles well.

Quoting: Mal

Quoting: randylThe only big drawback to the current base Xbox controller for Windows is that it uses AA batteries instead of a self-contained rechargeable.

Odd. That's the main reason why I don't like ds.

You mean you don't prefer a proprietary offer for something that already has a standardized solution? I for one don't want to be able to go to my nearest store to solve the most common problem in all of consumer electronics, I want to order a special product™. But even better would be if the battery is sealed inside the device, then all I need to do is throw the whole thing away and order a new one!

LOL seriously, I love that Valve used AA batteries in the Steam controller - I order a 20 pack of AA rechargeable every few years. Its just a fact of life that rechargeable batteries wear out over time, why would anyone want to use a proprietary power source instead of a standard one? Makes no sense.

I'm glad its been indicated that the power pack in the Deck should be replaceable, with a little effort.