Canonical want your feedback on Ubuntu Gaming

Encouraging to hear they feel motivated to improve things for gaming.

Between the Steam Deck and high-profile Windows youtubers doing a Linux gaming challenge, the wave that started with dxvk and Proton is rising even higher. Good times.

i think this situation is... ironic to say the least...
canonical bet that linux could become mainstream, spend a lot of money on it, then they failed.
they even tried to do an partnership with valve and got ambitious with their own display server, an phone, tablet, conversible concept...
and ultimately failed, but at least they were the entry point to many in the world of linux and as result, many people build know how on ubuntu wich helped then grow in the server space (cheap laborhood)

the desktop seemed ... abandoned, a few bug fixes here and there but no major new features.

then valve strike again, an big youtuber that reache the masses start talking about linux , and they're like:
hey we're listening to yourfeedback!
i'm not saying they werent before, but they were silent at best...
its almost like they realize that things may finally get into motion now, and they may miss the boat...
anyway, i'm not mad at then, its just that... it may be to later, steamOS is arch based and pop seems to be get the public they were negleting, so lets see what happens =p

I'm not going to trust Canonical. At any point before this, Ubuntu could have acknowledged gaming as a usecase. But no, Pop and Valve had to wade through until the point where it's useable and now they're like "gaming, eh?"

Ever since I actually take a look at the their history, I don't think I could trust them anymore.

So we'll see.

I started off using Ubuntu when I made the switch to Linux last year (Xubuntu and Kubuntu were what I used the most). However, I've since soured on Canonical, and the switch of Firefox from a deb to a Snap caused me to leave anything 'buntu for Debian, the original.

I do not trust Canonical to seriously orient Ubuntu in any way for playing video games. However, I also don't think Debian, or anything based on it, is the best for targetting gaming in the first place.

Personally, I think Valve has the right idea. I think an Arch-based system offers the most flexibility for gaming on Linux. I'm planning on trying out Arch via EndeavourOS myself in the coming weeks as soon as my PC build is complete.

i think this situation is... ironic to say the least...
canonical bet that linux could become mainstream, spend a lot of money on it, then they failed.
they even tried to do an partnership with valve and got ambitious with their own display server, an phone, tablet, conversible concept...
and ultimately failed, but at least they were the entry point to many in the world of linux and as result, many people build know how on ubuntu wich helped then grow in the server space (cheap laborhood)

the desktop seemed ... abandoned, a few bug fixes here and there but no major new features.

then valve strike again, an big youtuber that reache the masses start talking about linux , and they're like:
hey we're listening to yourfeedback!
i'm not saying they werent before, but they were silent at best...
its almost like they realize that things may finally get into motion now, and they may miss the boat...
anyway, i'm not mad at then, its just that... it may be to later, steamOS is arch based and pop seems to be get the public they were negleting, so lets see what happens =p

Ubuntu definitely was the first home user friendly distro out there, and they put a lot of effort into making it that way, but I think they lost their way at some point. They tried to turn into a Microsoft, and it didn't work - a little too commerical, not enough looking after their users. Trying to do their own thing rather than work with (and thereby lead) the community. Red Hat gets away with this by looking at a different market.

I wasn't a fan with the direction Ubuntu had started to take, but what kept me away the most was their insistence on Unity, and then trying to put Amazon affiliate links and data collection in by default. That's gone away now (I hope), but that it was tried at all speaks volumes of their priorities. Which is a shame, because they were well poised to become the standard distro that could have been the reference against gaming development.

Unity is still the best DE ever though. Change my mind.

Unity is still the best DE ever though. Change my mind.

Seconded. I gave up on Ubuntu though. I'm currently using Gnome with the Unite extension on Arch, a combination I've come to refer to as "Baby's First Chainsaw".

You want feedback? Get rid of snap.

You want feedback? Get rid of snap.

I'd say either get rid of Snap, or add Crackle and Pop!

I am, however, uncertain if it hasn't mind controlled you and that now I should wear special sunglasses and start chewing gum.

What happens when you run out of bubble gum?

i think this situation is... ironic to say the least...
canonical bet that linux could become mainstream, spend a lot of money on it, then they failed.
they even tried to do an partnership with valve and got ambitious with their own display server, an phone, tablet, conversible concept...
and ultimately failed, but at least they were the entry point to many in the world of linux and as result, many people build know how on ubuntu wich helped then grow in the server space (cheap laborhood)

the desktop seemed ... abandoned, a few bug fixes here and there but no major new features.

then valve strike again, an big youtuber that reache the masses start talking about linux , and they're like:
hey we're listening to yourfeedback!
i'm not saying they werent before, but they were silent at best...
its almost like they realize that things may finally get into motion now, and they may miss the boat...
anyway, i'm not mad at then, its just that... it may be to later, steamOS is arch based and pop seems to be get the public they were negleting, so lets see what happens =p

Ubuntu definitely was the first home user friendly distro out there, and they put a lot of effort into making it that way, but I think they lost their way at some point. They tried to turn into a Microsoft, and it didn't work - a little too commerical, not enough looking after their users. Trying to do their own thing rather than work with (and thereby lead) the community. Red Hat gets away with this by looking at a different market.

I wasn't a fan with the direction Ubuntu had started to take, but what kept me away the most was their insistence on Unity, and then trying to put Amazon affiliate links and data collection in by default. That's gone away now (I hope), but that it was tried at all speaks volumes of their priorities. Which is a shame, because they were well poised to become the standard distro that could have been the reference against gaming development.

Unity is still the best DE ever though. Change my mind.

The beauty of choice is that I don't need to change your mind.

I am, however, uncertain if it hasn't mind controlled you and that now I should wear special sunglasses and start chewing gum.

But then what happens if you're all out of bubblegum?

These should be easy:

1. Offer the last Mesa. This won't matter for people that use Ubuntu on servers of course as they will not touch Mesa/Xorg/Wayland, but for those on the desktop, it is really beneficial. Avoids a PPA.

2. Offer the latest Wine/Wine Staging. Like Mesa, this is desktop gamer focused and would be nice to have the latest without a PPA.

3. Offer the latest Lutris. Pop!_OS kinda does this already in their Pop_Shop, but it would be nice to have this once again... without a PPA.

4. Should we have the latest kernel as an option to install as a package? Like linux-latest or something. I think System76 does this in Pop!_OS with their linux-system76 package.

Can't wait for them to create their own type of gaming, try to force it on the community for several months, then abandon the effort when it becomes clear that nobody is interested in doing things the "Canonical way". Woo.

A chance for Canonical to show their quality. Hopefully they will not hijack gaming to be all about what they want but what everyone wants.

I have come here to chew bubblegum, and GNU/Linux. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

So ... are you gonna chew GNU/Linux now, or GNU the Linux?

i think this situation is... ironic to say the least...
canonical bet that linux could become mainstream, spend a lot of money on it, then they failed.
they even tried to do an partnership with valve and got ambitious with their own display server, an phone, tablet, conversible concept...
and ultimately failed, but at least they were the entry point to many in the world of linux and as result, many people build know how on ubuntu wich helped then grow in the server space (cheap laborhood)

the desktop seemed ... abandoned, a few bug fixes here and there but no major new features.

then valve strike again, an big youtuber that reache the masses start talking about linux , and they're like:
hey we're listening to yourfeedback!
i'm not saying they werent before, but they were silent at best...
its almost like they realize that things may finally get into motion now, and they may miss the boat...
anyway, i'm not mad at then, its just that... it may be to later, steamOS is arch based and pop seems to be get the public they were negleting, so lets see what happens =p

Ubuntu definitely was the first home user friendly distro out there, and they put a lot of effort into making it that way, but I think they lost their way at some point. They tried to turn into a Microsoft, and it didn't work - a little too commerical, not enough looking after their users. Trying to do their own thing rather than work with (and thereby lead) the community. Red Hat gets away with this by looking at a different market.

I wasn't a fan with the direction Ubuntu had started to take, but what kept me away the most was their insistence on Unity, and then trying to put Amazon affiliate links and data collection in by default. That's gone away now (I hope), but that it was tried at all speaks volumes of their priorities. Which is a shame, because they were well poised to become the standard distro that could have been the reference against gaming development.

Nah there really were quite a few REALLY friendly distributions out there, long before Ubuntu was a twinkle in Shuttleworth's eye. Corel/Xandros is one of many. Mandrake was also wonderful. Ubuntu was just the latest iteration that went hard for the desktop initially, and especially while Red Hat had given up.

The amusing thing to me, is that Unity also pushed me away from them... and then they finally announced unity was dead, they turned around and forced snaps... so I still stay away.

a combination I've come to refer to as "Baby's First Chainsaw".

LOL

Unity is still the best DE ever though. Change my mind.

Unity had a lot of nice ideas but they all lacked polish. The menu was laggy, I had constant crashes, the lenses could be useful but it was faster just to open a file manager, the theme in general was very ugly. What I actually miss is the HUD and the way that maximized windows' header bars would integrate with the top bar and become the menu so you could take better advantage of screen space.

If they did a modern implementation of it I would give it a try though.

As for feedback for gaming, that's going to be hard. I stopped using Ubuntu and its variants a while ago because of instability issues and migrated to Fedora which runs smoothly, It's kind of boring sometimes because things just work. I think if I were to try it again, I'd go with Xubuntu, it's the most stable one in my experience.

i agree with everything except not wanting to have something stable and thinking unity was ugly.
its semi transparent so it match everything behind.
as for stability, you can aways find new ways to break your system on purpose then try to fix

Canonical? Listen to feedback?

"hahahaha. Oh, wait. You're serious. Let me laugh even harder. HAHAHAHAHAHA"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

Canonical? Listen to feedback?

"hahahaha. Oh, wait. You're serious. Let me laugh even harder. HAHAHAHAHAHA"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

Let's just say that Canonical has very selective hearing. They'll ask for feedback and then ignore the parts they don't like.