Now that getting games that use BattlEye for anti-cheat working on Linux (either native or through Proton) is much easier, an Ubisoft rep suggests people post in their forum to show demand for it.
In response to a post on their official forum asking about Ubisoft hooking it all up, the rep mentioned they can pass the feedback onto developers and that hopefully "other players will reply here in favor of Proton support and the development team may then look to implement it". It's not exactly much and a pretty bog-standard response but it's a reply nonetheless and isn't being ignored.
The thing is, this is just about playing Rainbow Six Siege on Linux with Proton, and it's not likely the developer would do it just for that. Now though, with the Steam Deck that uses SteamOS 3, developers will have to get it working if they want their players to be able to access their games on it. Right now though, like everything else, it all depends on demand from users and how well the Steam Deck sells.
Pictured - Rainbow Six Siege on Steam.
In other Ubisoft related news, it appears that a new "Ubisoft Connect PC Client" has appeared as found by SteamDB's Pavel Djundik on Twitter so it appears that more Ubisoft games may come to Steam.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: GuestIt's an email to Battleye to turn it on. Unless they're really going to "actively" support it, which I question, why all the theater? Just send the damn email.There's quite a few reasons actually.
For starters, enabling it would require sign-off by different people in the company. This would also need thorough testing, to ensure they're actually happy with the protection it provides. Mechanically simple for them to enable by asking, sure, but big online games have a lot to think about when enabling a new platform.
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Meanwhile people who wait for the Division 2, wildlands (for co-op) and breakpoint
it's just a taunt from ubisoft.
Just a reminder Stadia uses linux but because Google showed the green paper and Ubisoft was attracted to it
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it's just a taunt from ubisoft.
Just a reminder Stadia uses linux but because Google showed the green paper and Ubisoft was attracted to it
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Nah.
If they wanted to do it, and they could see there's a business case for doing it, they'd have already done it.
These things are just so that they can say you're suffering because you didn't pray hard enough. It's just bollocks.
If they wanted to do it, and they could see there's a business case for doing it, they'd have already done it.
These things are just so that they can say you're suffering because you didn't pray hard enough. It's just bollocks.
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Mohandevir Nov 30, 2021
Quoting: nenoroMeanwhile people who wait for the Division 2, wildlands (for co-op) and breakpoint
it's just a taunt from ubisoft.
Just a reminder Stadia uses linux but because Google showed the green paper and Ubisoft was attracted to it
Ubisoft... It's always about money, but it's even truer for them. If the Steam Deck becomes a huge success and it causes the thread to be filled with requests, they will surely have a serious look at it. I don't expect anything to happen before the release of the Steam Deck, though.
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Mohandevir Nov 30, 2021
Quoting: GuestWhat's stupid is asking a bunch of Linux users to go create an account on your forum to go post a +1 for Proton support
I get your point. I was just saying that I don't think it's only a taunt. I really think they did that to "monitor" the success of the Steam Deck and what could be in it for them.
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Quoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestWhat's stupid is asking a bunch of Linux users to go create an account on your forum to go post a +1 for Proton support
I get your point. I was just saying that I don't think it's only a taunt. I really think they did that to "monitor" the success of the Steam Deck and what could be in it for them.
They have tools behind the scenes on Steam to see all those numbers. This is just theater.
Mmmm... To what purpose? Because, if I think reverse and I'm a Steam Windows user that already got a Ubisoft catalogue in my Steam library and I'm interrested into buying a Steam Deck... How does it shows in the internal Steam stats?
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Quoting: GuestYou know what's silly? The 1 - 2% asking for any game support or accommodation at all, while feeling entirely entitled to being treated equally. Why is it so much for a company to ask for a little show of public support from their user base? Linux gamers are asking this company to spend time and money on something that most likely will be a financial loss. There is a risk involved with taking this sort of support on and some people could be on the hook for the decision. The safest way out here is for them to just ignore the anti-cheat support request. The question Linux gamers should be asking themselves is why should Ubisoft support the platform and what can they do to encourage them? If it were me and this were important I would start a positive social media campaign, get messages on their forum, and on Twitter, Facebook, Hacker News, Reddit, and other social news/discussion platforms and make our collective voice loud in a friendly way.Quoting: Liam DaweQuoting: GuestIt's an email to Battleye to turn it on. Unless they're really going to "actively" support it, which I question, why all the theater? Just send the damn email.There's quite a few reasons actually.
For starters, enabling it would require sign-off by different people in the company. This would also need thorough testing, to ensure they're actually happy with the protection it provides. Mechanically simple for them to enable by asking, sure, but big online games have a lot to think about when enabling a new platform.
Asking for people to post in a forum to show support is simply silly. Look at the numbers and the fact that Valve's money did all the porting work for them. I get them not wanting to support us because we're small and it was too much work, but at this point, asking for forum posts is nothing short of pathetic.
Linux Land needs to be a lot less hostile and a lot more welcoming and embracing of change and acceptance if they want to see the adoption it's long been asking for. The buzz around Linux adoption through Proton and the Steam Deck is an opportunity that may not come again for a while and it would be a shame for it to be wasted. If Linux gamers and users keep up their hostile attitude people probably aren't going to adopt the platform and a backlash could occur instead.
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Mohandevir Nov 30, 2021
Quoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestWhat's stupid is asking a bunch of Linux users to go create an account on your forum to go post a +1 for Proton support
I get your point. I was just saying that I don't think it's only a taunt. I really think they did that to "monitor" the success of the Steam Deck and what could be in it for them.
They have tools behind the scenes on Steam to see all those numbers. This is just theater.
Mmmm... To what purpose? Because, if I think reverse and I'm a Steam Windows user that already got a Ubisoft catalogue in my Steam library and I'm interrested into buying a Steam Deck... How does it shows in the internal Steam stats?
Someone saying they are buying a Deck doesn't mean they actually will do what they said. The data in the forum is 100% baseless and useless info. The tools behind the scenes that I spoke about tell them how many players use Proton etc, which is far more valuable info than random people saying they will do something that they haven't done yet.
Yep, but if I'm a Windows user that reserved a Steam Deck, I'm not using Proton and doesn't show up on any internal stats... Am I wrong?
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Mohandevir Nov 30, 2021
Quoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestWhat's stupid is asking a bunch of Linux users to go create an account on your forum to go post a +1 for Proton support
I get your point. I was just saying that I don't think it's only a taunt. I really think they did that to "monitor" the success of the Steam Deck and what could be in it for them.
They have tools behind the scenes on Steam to see all those numbers. This is just theater.
Mmmm... To what purpose? Because, if I think reverse and I'm a Steam Windows user that already got a Ubisoft catalogue in my Steam library and I'm interrested into buying a Steam Deck... How does it shows in the internal Steam stats?
Someone saying they are buying a Deck doesn't mean they actually will do what they said. The data in the forum is 100% baseless and useless info. The tools behind the scenes that I spoke about tell them how many players use Proton etc, which is far more valuable info than random people saying they will do something that they haven't done yet.
Yep, but if I'm a Windows user that reserved a Steam Deck, I'm not using Proton and doesn't show up on any internal stats... Am I wrong?
You're not wrong there. And you can cancel that steam deck order at any time, making what you said useless. There is no tracking or accountability to a forum post so it doesn't really show any real support for anything.
Imo, the "cancel order" argument can go both ways (Linux or Windows). What I would like to know it's what's the best way to know how many Windows users are manifesting interrest in buying the Steam Deck? I'm quite sure that Ubisoft doesn't care for the actual 1% Linux users. They are searching for a way of finding out how many potential converts the Steam Deck will bring.
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Mohandevir Nov 30, 2021
Quoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestQuoting: MohandevirQuoting: GuestWhat's stupid is asking a bunch of Linux users to go create an account on your forum to go post a +1 for Proton support
I get your point. I was just saying that I don't think it's only a taunt. I really think they did that to "monitor" the success of the Steam Deck and what could be in it for them.
They have tools behind the scenes on Steam to see all those numbers. This is just theater.
Mmmm... To what purpose? Because, if I think reverse and I'm a Steam Windows user that already got a Ubisoft catalogue in my Steam library and I'm interrested into buying a Steam Deck... How does it shows in the internal Steam stats?
Someone saying they are buying a Deck doesn't mean they actually will do what they said. The data in the forum is 100% baseless and useless info. The tools behind the scenes that I spoke about tell them how many players use Proton etc, which is far more valuable info than random people saying they will do something that they haven't done yet.
Yep, but if I'm a Windows user that reserved a Steam Deck, I'm not using Proton and doesn't show up on any internal stats... Am I wrong?
You're not wrong there. And you can cancel that steam deck order at any time, making what you said useless. There is no tracking or accountability to a forum post so it doesn't really show any real support for anything.
Imo, the "cancel order" argument can go both ways (Linux or Windows). What I would like to know it's what's the best way to know how many Windows users are manifesting interrest in buying the Steam Deck? I'm quite sure that Ubisoft doesn't care for the actual 1% Linux users. They are searching for a way of finding out how many potential converts the Steam Deck will bring.
The best most cost-effective way I can say would be to send Battleye an email, include support for it and see what shakes out. It can't be any easier than that with Valve doing the tech support for them and the porting. What could be done to make it any easier on them?
Doing that could cause a lot of damage to the game, if it's not well tested and then a breach is found that allows lots of new bots/cheaters... They want to know before investing money in that kind of support. Remember? It's all about money.
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