Open 3D Engine (O3DE) sees a first major release, Linux support in preview

The more engines the better. This one is however looking too far away into the future...

Godot 4 is looking too far into the future as well as they drop OpenGL support and 3.x branch does have major bottlenecks preventing creating large 3D projects with it... I wonder what is easier to do - add OpenGL support back to Godot 4 or O3DE? Also I don't see major improvements overall for Godot 4 except for graphics, so I guess most major bottlenecks are still there, right?

Quoting: slapinGodot 4 is looking too far into the future as well as they drop OpenGL support and 3.x branch does have major bottlenecks preventing creating large 3D projects with it...

actually, godot 4 will drop openGL support, but godot 4.x will add it back, they had 3 options at hand:

1)try to make both renders at once and delay both renders.
2)try to make the vulkan render first and delay the openGL render for an 4.x version.
3)try to make the openGL render first and delay the vulkan render for an 4.x version.

they chose the second option, so if you absolutelly need to have GL suport you have to stick with the 3.x branch, in any case some features were backported to it from the 4.x branch =p

Quoting: slapinI wonder what is easier to do - add OpenGL support back to Godot 4 or O3DE? Also I don't see major improvements overall for Godot 4 except for graphics, so I guess most major bottlenecks are still there, right?

well godot 3.x added more features than i was expecting, so i think the 4.0 may have more features than initially planned as well.

in any case both engines come from different dictions.

lumbeyard was so painfull/hard to use that no one wanted to use it, but they had an triple A quality render.
godot was so good and easy to use that many indies are migrating to it or starting to learn game development on it, and now its geting an better render to better compete in the market of engines with cuting edge graphics.

only the future can tell what engine will be more sucessfull, i think both will co exist for a long time, and i hope both can borrow code from each other, o3de (formely know as lumbeyard) can learn from godot how to be easier to use (and maybe even add gdscript support or some similiar script lang)
and godot may be able to borrow advanced code techniques from lumbeyard or maybe even have a lot of options of renders (the same way blender do have with cycles, eevee, the intel developed one, the amd developed one etc)
*im not sure if it was amd or nvidia or both have their own solutions.

To me, Godot 3.x weak point lies not in render but in data model design, especially how it handles geometry.
Everything can be bypassed in Godot except that, and that is major problem preventing implementation of streaming systems = no larger worlds :(
Updating geometry produce major stuttering and consumes most of frame, and it is impossible to do partial updates (i.e. index buffer only).

Quoting: slapinTo me, Godot 3.x weak point lies not in render but in data model design, especially how it handles geometry.
Everything can be bypassed in Godot except that, and that is major problem preventing implementation of streaming systems = no larger worlds :(
Updating geometry produce major stuttering and consumes most of frame, and it is impossible to do partial updates (i.e. index buffer only).

you mean stuff like level of details? i saw an plugin for that.
but texture stream is an feature that godot indeed lack.


now, if only we could have something like nanite, lumen and asset stream...

Is Unity editor for Linux still in some preview/alpha/beta/dunno state BTW?

Is O3DE very different from the current Lumberyard used on New World?

Nice to see an alternative to Unreal and Unity. I've seen a lot of developer in my country simply cannot afford those two software, while other alternatives are not powerful enough to support their vision.

Quoting: TheRiddickSo this is lumberyard? what happened to lumberyard, discontinued? Also if this is lumberyard then its open-source crytek engine 3 or 4? Does it currently support DX12 and Vulkan?

I took quick trip to Wikipedia and project page and found some answers to those questions.

So O3DE is successor to Lumberyard that took some parts from it and some parts are written from scratch. I checked also the Lumberyard Git repository activity and there hasn't been anything for a while, so successor part must be true.

Crytek connection might still be there, but it's getting bit muddier as some code has been rewritten. I guess over time situation will be like Source Engine and Quake.

DX12 and Vulkan is supported on Windows, Linux only has Vulkan. Which makes sense.

Quoting: elmapul

Quoting: slapinTo me, Godot 3.x weak point lies not in render but in data model design, especially how it handles geometry.
Everything can be bypassed in Godot except that, and that is major problem preventing implementation of streaming systems = no larger worlds :(
Updating geometry produce major stuttering and consumes most of frame, and it is impossible to do partial updates (i.e. index buffer only).

you mean stuff like level of details? i saw an plugin for that.
but texture stream is an feature that godot indeed lack.


now, if only we could have something like nanite, lumen and asset stream...

Not only texture, geometry, audio, etc. are not streamable. It is just not there in any way.
For 2D games that is not issue, but for 3D that hits quite hard.