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Very interesting discussion of framerates! I'm starting fresh on monitors this coming year (after moving internationally and passing on my old one), and I was thinking of making the jump from 60 Hz to something higher like 144 Hz. After reading this discussion, might it be worth going even higher (like 240 Hz, say) as a sort of future-proofing? (I'm planning on using whatever monitor I get for as many years as possible.) Variable-refresh rate would be a given, which I gather should smooth over issues where I can't actually reach the maximum possible FPS, right?

I'm just putting my gaming laptop but I've been almost exclusively on my Raspberry Pi 4 for the majority of this year for work, gaming and family usage.

Quoting: PhiladelphusVery interesting discussion of framerates! I'm starting fresh on monitors this coming year (after moving internationally and passing on my old one), and I was thinking of making the jump from 60 Hz to something higher like 144 Hz. After reading this discussion, might it be worth going even higher (like 240 Hz, say) as a sort of future-proofing? (I'm planning on using whatever monitor I get for as many years as possible.) Variable-refresh rate would be a given, which I gather should smooth over issues where I can't actually reach the maximum possible FPS, right?

Yes, VRR / adaptive sync makes the monitor change refresh rate to match the framerate to prevent tearing. Personally, I don't see the need for 270 Hz monitor yet, so I went with 180 Hz / 2560x1440. But if you can get one for reasonable price, then why not. Just don't go for 4K in such case. 4K with high refresh rate won't be feasible for quite a while still until GPU performance will catch up.


Last edited by Shmerl on 30 December 2021 at 10:13 pm UTC

In regards to future proofing - hard to say. On one hand you don't want to change monitors often. On the other hand they do improve gradually. I think the most practical is to have a monitor that's somewhat better than you current GPU can saturate. So over a few GPU upgrades it will sync up. But not too much better. Since by the time that will sync up, new monitors at that time will be better in some other ways too.

New user here, when i was filling out the pc specs i was wondering why we dont just have the user copy paste the steam provided system info and then have a few questions you have to provide yourself like the gamepad and main gaming machine question.

Quoting: ochitaNew user here, when i was filling out the pc specs i was wondering why we dont just have the user copy paste the steam provided system info and then have a few questions you have to provide yourself like the gamepad and main gaming machine question.

I would need to write a parser for it and it wouldn't save much time at all. It takes the same time to fill a few boxes as it does to open Steam, go to settings and get the system info to then paste it in. Just not worth the effort really.

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: ochitaNew user here, when i was filling out the pc specs i was wondering why we dont just have the user copy paste the steam provided system info and then have a few questions you have to provide yourself like the gamepad and main gaming machine question.

I would need to write a parser for it and it wouldn't save much time at all. It takes the same time to fill a few boxes as it does to open Steam, go to settings and get the system info to then paste it in. Just not worth the effort really.

They offer it in JSON nowadays, though...

They do, but the JSON part doesn't even contain the CPU model!?!

(Removed the quote, you know where to find it. Steam takes some seconds to build it, though.)


Last edited by Eike on 31 December 2021 at 12:08 pm UTC

Quoting: Linas

Quoting: axredneckCan you add "VRAM amount" ?

Wouldn't GPU model tell you that?

Nope.

As in i use a GTX 1050 mobile, which has 2 versions. One with 4 gb vram, other is with 2 gb vram and that is the only difference.

GTX 1050 desktop only has 2 gb vram model so things are clear there.

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: Linas

Quoting: axredneckCan you add "VRAM amount" ?

Wouldn't GPU model tell you that?

Nope.

As in i use a GTX 1050 mobile, which has 2 versions. One with 4 gb vram, other is with 2 gb vram and that is the only difference.

GTX 1050 desktop only has 2 gb vram model so things are clear there.

Isn't that GTX 1050 Mobile vs GTX 1050 Ti Mobile?

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Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: Linas

Quoting: axredneckCan you add "VRAM amount" ?

Wouldn't GPU model tell you that?

Nope.

As in i use a GTX 1050 mobile, which has 2 versions. One with 4 gb vram, other is with 2 gb vram and that is the only difference.

GTX 1050 desktop only has 2 gb vram model so things are clear there.

Isn't that GTX 1050 Mobile vs GTX 1050 Ti Mobile?

No?

GTX 1050 Ti mobile are all 4 gb vram, GTX 1050 Mobile has 2 variants, one with 2 gb vram, other with 4 gb vram.

Quoting: ShmerlIn regards to future proofing - hard to say. On one hand you don't want to change monitors often. On the other hand they do improve gradually. I think the most practical is to have a monitor that's somewhat better than you current GPU can saturate. So over a few GPU upgrades it will sync up. But not too much better. Since by the time that will sync up, new monitors at that time will be better in some other ways too.

Thanks, some good advice. I'll have to think some more about what I want to get.

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: Linas

Quoting: axredneckCan you add "VRAM amount" ?

Wouldn't GPU model tell you that?

Nope.

As in i use a GTX 1050 mobile, which has 2 versions. One with 4 gb vram, other is with 2 gb vram and that is the only difference.

GTX 1050 desktop only has 2 gb vram model so things are clear there.

Isn't that GTX 1050 Mobile vs GTX 1050 Ti Mobile?

No?

GTX 1050 Ti mobile are all 4 gb vram, GTX 1050 Mobile has 2 variants, one with 2 gb vram, other with 4 gb vram.

Ok, I have only seen 2GB versions of the 1050 Mobile so I assume that the 4GB one is quite rare?

Im lucky enough to be on a labtop with a 165hz display. Although I dont know if I could detect a difference with a 60 or even 30 hz display. Also, I try to be conservative with temperatures and try to not stress things to extend the hardware's life, so I will limit games to 60hz if i have the option in-game.

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: F.Ultra

Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: Linas

Quoting: axredneckCan you add "VRAM amount" ?

Wouldn't GPU model tell you that?

Nope.

As in i use a GTX 1050 mobile, which has 2 versions. One with 4 gb vram, other is with 2 gb vram and that is the only difference.

GTX 1050 desktop only has 2 gb vram model so things are clear there.

Isn't that GTX 1050 Mobile vs GTX 1050 Ti Mobile?

No?

GTX 1050 Ti mobile are all 4 gb vram, GTX 1050 Mobile has 2 variants, one with 2 gb vram, other with 4 gb vram.

Ok, I have only seen 2GB versions of the 1050 Mobile so I assume that the 4GB one is quite rare?

Not rare. Hp, Lenovo, Asus, Acer are the ones that i know that had 1050 4GB models. In Asus's case, there was two even. One sold under the ROG family while other one is from FX series.

Probably Clevo and bunch of other brands that just puts their brand over Clevo laptops had too.

For game controllers, I am currently using an Xbox Elite v2 and I was curious if you could add the Elite controllers to the list. :-)

As for VR headsets, I have an HP Reverb G2 (not in the list) but I'm not sure how popular that is either. Maybe you could add a general "Windows Mixed Reality" headset. Sounds kinda weird running on a Linux OS though heh.

Quoting: t3gFor game controllers, I am currently using an Xbox Elite v2 and I was curious if you could add the Elite controllers to the list. :-)

Added.

Quoting: t3gAs for VR headsets, I have an HP Reverb G2 (not in the list) but I'm not sure how popular that is either. Maybe you could add a general "Windows Mixed Reality" headset. Sounds kinda weird running on a Linux OS though heh.

Added Reverb G2.

Also added a bunch of 8BitDo Gamepads.