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The team said that this release "focuses on smoothing out wrinkles, evolving the design, and improving the overall feel and usability of the environment".
Plasma 5.24 - credit: KDE
It's quite an important release actually, especially with all the upgrades to Discover (the software installer / updater). Discover is smarter and clearer about error messages, smarter about not letting you break your system by removing essential packages (or Discover managing to remove itself). Lots to be happy about there for users of all skill levels.
On top of that Discover also gives you an option to reboot once updates are done, there's a few UI adjustments to the Update Page to make it less overwhelming and you can now also open and install locally downloaded Flatpak packages too.
A huge addition is the newer Overview mode, which is much similar to how GNOME Overview works. This allows you to get a view of different workspaces, interact with all the various windows and applications you have open in the background and the ability to search your system too. See the short video demo KDE put out:
This Overview isn't quite finished, they say it's technically a Beta right now.
Absolutely loads more new, especially when it comes to Wayland that will eventually replace the ancient X11 system. Wayland + Plasma now supports colours greater than 8bits, better support for VR headsets and drawing tablets, the Spectacle screenshot tool can now access the Active Window mode and there's more keyboard shortcuts across the desktop that now work with Wayland too.
Other random improvements include a faster shut down, a new wallpaper, important notifications now get an orange strip to bring more attention to them and the list of tweaks goes on.
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I used and loved KDE 2 and 3, but version 4 pushed me towards other DEs. It will be interesting to revisit it thanks to SteamDesk.
[edit] found some old screenshot ;-)
[edit2] and here's KDE 2
Last edited by pb on 8 February 2022 at 1:34 pm UTC
[edit] found some old screenshot ;-)
[edit2] and here's KDE 2
Last edited by pb on 8 February 2022 at 1:34 pm UTC
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Small clarification, this LTS will be supported until the last version of Plasma 5 is released, at which point THAT will become the final LTS of the Plasma 5 family.
Last edited by Tori on 8 February 2022 at 1:40 pm UTC
Last edited by Tori on 8 February 2022 at 1:40 pm UTC
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Plasma is keep evolving, to be even more better with each new release
Keep up the good work, KDE developers!
Keep up the good work, KDE developers!
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For me this is the best version yet.
Wayland is finally stable for me. I can turn my TV on and off during the day and kwin doesn't crash anymore. Finally my session doesn't die everytime I turn my TV on or off.
Also the new open and close animations for windows is very sexy.
Wayland is finally stable for me. I can turn my TV on and off during the day and kwin doesn't crash anymore. Finally my session doesn't die everytime I turn my TV on or off.
Also the new open and close animations for windows is very sexy.
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I used and loved KDE 2 and 3, but version 4 pushed me towards other DEs. It will be interesting to revisit it thanks to SteamDesk.
[edit] found some old screenshot ;-)
[edit2] and here's KDE 2
Oooh... that KDE2 screen brings me back to the uni.
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Other big one - under Wayland they now have the concept of a 'primary' monitor like under Xorg, so for multi monitor setups where those monitors are changing (i.e. laptops), it remembers your setup and consistently puts your primary panel on the same screen you set it to when plugging in an external monitor.
Looks like they may have fixed the bug I experienced, too, where a Konsole session would freeze if the monitor it was on (or the dGPU?) powered down while you were away with the screen locked, and just be totally dead when you came back and unlocked it.
I'll need to re-test and see if the DRM leasing support means I can get my Vive running on Wayland, next. That's pretty much one of the last things I keep a Windows drive around for, other than my Xbox Game Pass sub.
Looks like they may have fixed the bug I experienced, too, where a Konsole session would freeze if the monitor it was on (or the dGPU?) powered down while you were away with the screen locked, and just be totally dead when you came back and unlocked it.
I'll need to re-test and see if the DRM leasing support means I can get my Vive running on Wayland, next. That's pretty much one of the last things I keep a Windows drive around for, other than my Xbox Game Pass sub.
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I used and loved KDE 2 and 3, but version 4 pushed me towards other DEs. It will be interesting to revisit it thanks to SteamDesk.
KDE 4 was very rough, but by 5 KDE's been quite solid again. Heck, even by around 4.4/4.5 it was at least usable again, with steady polish and enhancements since then. Unless you just have a strong preference for the style or workflow of another particular desktop, I think you'll be happy with what you see in modern KDE.
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Kimyrielle Feb 8, 2022
I didn't really look at KDE in years (I always thought that if I'd want an UI that looks and feels like Windows, I could always use Windows), but I am casually in the market for a new DE, as GNOME hasn't made me too happy in the last years, either. Maybe it's time for another look, I dunno?
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KDE 4 was very rough, but by 5 KDE's been quite solid again. Heck, even by around 4.4/4.5 it was at least usable again, with steady polish and enhancements since then. Unless you just have a strong preference for the style or workflow of another particular desktop, I think you'll be happy with what you see in modern KDE.
I've been using xfce for the last few years, but I don't have strong feelings for or against any desktop, so I'll gladly test the new kde on the deck. :-)
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KDE 4 was very rough, but by 5 KDE's been quite solid again. Heck, even by around 4.4/4.5 it was at least usable again, with steady polish and enhancements since then. Unless you just have a strong preference for the style or workflow of another particular desktop, I think you'll be happy with what you see in modern KDE.
I've been using xfce for the last few years, but I don't have strong feelings for or against any desktop, so I'll gladly test the new kde on the deck. :-)
I have looked at xfce so often, and It seems a hassle to just get my dual monitor set up properly so the primary screen is really the primary including the panel etc. That part of the configuration is for me so unintuitive that I shy away, since I often switch setups and have to switch the primary monitor quite often. Other parts about setting it up too. Once running it's nice.
KDE .. you see the ressources behind it, and while I think they did have their focus wrong for some time (especially 4 and beginning of 5), where they innovated, popped out features and libraries, without having a really good and bug free basic experience (as switching to dark mode does nothing for GTK until session restart, that your primary screen has a black background and is not interactive sometimes
etc.), I think they realized that doing better at the basic stuff is more important as the most features they could add by now. And I'm glad they take that route.
I still consider it the "best" desktop, but certainly not the one with the best track record in the past few years when it comes to bugs (most not breaking bugs, but little annoyances).
Last edited by STiAT on 8 February 2022 at 7:37 pm UTC
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Other big one - under Wayland they now have the concept of a 'primary' monitor like under Xorg, so for multi monitor setups where those monitors are changing (i.e. laptops), it remembers your setup and consistently puts your primary panel on the same screen you set it to when plugging in an external monitor.
Looks like they may have fixed the bug I experienced, too, where a Konsole session would freeze if the monitor it was on (or the dGPU?) powered down while you were away with the screen locked, and just be totally dead when you came back and unlocked it.
I'll need to re-test and see if the DRM leasing support means I can get my Vive running on Wayland, next. That's pretty much one of the last things I keep a Windows drive around for, other than my Xbox Game Pass sub.
That's actually important for me, even on the desktop since X and Wayland discover my "primary" as "secondary" since my HDMI seems to be listed first and my DP second, while my DP is the "primary" monitor in front of me. You could work around it, but as you said, on a laptop that was more hassle.
For me that's the change which could see me switch, or at least attempt a switch to wayland again, even being on NVidia (somehow the fedora guys made that actually working properly with GBM).
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CyborgZeta Feb 8, 2022
I don't really have anything to contribute other than to say that I love KDE and Plasma. Many thanks to all who work on it.
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I didn't really look at KDE in years (I always thought that if I'd want an UI that looks and feels like Windows, I could always use Windows), but I am casually in the market for a new DE, as GNOME hasn't made me too happy in the last years, either. Maybe it's time for another look, I dunno?
I am in the exact same position. I really don't like how KDE reminds me of Windows, but with that new overview, and some theme and icons changes, I think I could be swayed.
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Nice update, but for some reason it uninstalled kwin-x11 and left me with no window controls and almost every app crashed, thankfully I still had access to the app launcher, opened Konsole and installed kwin-x11, restarted and it was fixed.
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I used and loved KDE 2 and 3, but version 4 pushed me towards other DEs.
You are coming from Windows, are you?
I didn't, and therefore never liked KDE before version 4, as those were too much copying Windows.
No, I've never used Windows. Switched from AmigaOS to Linux in 2000.
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I'm so excited for where Plasma is going. It's been my favourite desktop. KDE 2 was my first, and when it was first released, KDE 5 / Plasma was awful. But now I'm really loving it over the last few years.
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Unlucky me, there have been bugs: discover crashing and wayland not working anymore.
I've used KDE since KDE 3, and it's the best for desktop tinkerers. It really is amazing. And yes it has more bugs than other DEs, but you can create a workflow that suits you perfectly, something you can't do in other DEs (easily).
I've used KDE since KDE 3, and it's the best for desktop tinkerers. It really is amazing. And yes it has more bugs than other DEs, but you can create a workflow that suits you perfectly, something you can't do in other DEs (easily).
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For me this is the best version yet.I wonder if using Wayland would solve a nuisance I have. I have tried so many changes to get rid of the problem, I don't know if it's software or driver at this point. Shortly after waking my system from sleep, my side monitor will turn black and freeze, my main monitor's wallpaper will change back to what was previously selected; it stays in this state for 5-7 seconds, and then it recovers and everything is fine. Your TV issue sounds along the same lines... don't know. I run X11 on the main rig because of some Wayland limitations in Spectacle (maybe fixed now?) and auto-type in my password vault. Sounds like I should test those things out again after upgrading Plasma!
Wayland is finally stable for me. I can turn my TV on and off during the day and kwin doesn't crash anymore. Finally my session doesn't die everytime I turn my TV on or off.
Also the new open and close animations for windows is very sexy.
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