KDE Plasma 5.24 is out now and what a beauty it is

Quoting: pb

Quoting: nitro322KDE 4 was very rough, but by 5 KDE's been quite solid again. Heck, even by around 4.4/4.5 it was at least usable again, with steady polish and enhancements since then. Unless you just have a strong preference for the style or workflow of another particular desktop, I think you'll be happy with what you see in modern KDE.

I've been using xfce for the last few years, but I don't have strong feelings for or against any desktop, so I'll gladly test the new kde on the deck. :-)

I have looked at xfce so often, and It seems a hassle to just get my dual monitor set up properly so the primary screen is really the primary including the panel etc. That part of the configuration is for me so unintuitive that I shy away, since I often switch setups and have to switch the primary monitor quite often. Other parts about setting it up too. Once running it's nice.

KDE .. you see the ressources behind it, and while I think they did have their focus wrong for some time (especially 4 and beginning of 5), where they innovated, popped out features and libraries, without having a really good and bug free basic experience (as switching to dark mode does nothing for GTK until session restart, that your primary screen has a black background and is not interactive sometimes
etc.), I think they realized that doing better at the basic stuff is more important as the most features they could add by now. And I'm glad they take that route.

I still consider it the "best" desktop, but certainly not the one with the best track record in the past few years when it comes to bugs (most not breaking bugs, but little annoyances).


Last edited by STiAT on 8 February 2022 at 7:37 pm UTC

Quoting: KithopOther big one - under Wayland they now have the concept of a 'primary' monitor like under Xorg, so for multi monitor setups where those monitors are changing (i.e. laptops), it remembers your setup and consistently puts your primary panel on the same screen you set it to when plugging in an external monitor.

Looks like they may have fixed the bug I experienced, too, where a Konsole session would freeze if the monitor it was on (or the dGPU?) powered down while you were away with the screen locked, and just be totally dead when you came back and unlocked it.

I'll need to re-test and see if the DRM leasing support means I can get my Vive running on Wayland, next. That's pretty much one of the last things I keep a Windows drive around for, other than my Xbox Game Pass sub.

That's actually important for me, even on the desktop since X and Wayland discover my "primary" as "secondary" since my HDMI seems to be listed first and my DP second, while my DP is the "primary" monitor in front of me. You could work around it, but as you said, on a laptop that was more hassle.

For me that's the change which could see me switch, or at least attempt a switch to wayland again, even being on NVidia (somehow the fedora guys made that actually working properly with GBM).

I don't really have anything to contribute other than to say that I love KDE and Plasma. Many thanks to all who work on it.

Quoting: KimyrielleI didn't really look at KDE in years (I always thought that if I'd want an UI that looks and feels like Windows, I could always use Windows), but I am casually in the market for a new DE, as GNOME hasn't made me too happy in the last years, either. Maybe it's time for another look, I dunno?

I am in the exact same position. I really don't like how KDE reminds me of Windows, but with that new overview, and some theme and icons changes, I think I could be swayed.

Nice update, but for some reason it uninstalled kwin-x11 and left me with no window controls and almost every app crashed, thankfully I still had access to the app launcher, opened Konsole and installed kwin-x11, restarted and it was fixed.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: pbI used and loved KDE 2 and 3, but version 4 pushed me towards other DEs.

You are coming from Windows, are you?
I didn't, and therefore never liked KDE before version 4, as those were too much copying Windows.

No, I've never used Windows. Switched from AmigaOS to Linux in 2000.

I'm so excited for where Plasma is going. It's been my favourite desktop. KDE 2 was my first, and when it was first released, KDE 5 / Plasma was awful. But now I'm really loving it over the last few years.

Unlucky me, there have been bugs: discover crashing and wayland not working anymore.

I've used KDE since KDE 3, and it's the best for desktop tinkerers. It really is amazing. And yes it has more bugs than other DEs, but you can create a workflow that suits you perfectly, something you can't do in other DEs (easily).

Quoting: Sojiro84For me this is the best version yet.

Wayland is finally stable for me. I can turn my TV on and off during the day and kwin doesn't crash anymore. Finally my session doesn't die everytime I turn my TV on or off.

Also the new open and close animations for windows is very sexy.

I wonder if using Wayland would solve a nuisance I have. I have tried so many changes to get rid of the problem, I don't know if it's software or driver at this point. Shortly after waking my system from sleep, my side monitor will turn black and freeze, my main monitor's wallpaper will change back to what was previously selected; it stays in this state for 5-7 seconds, and then it recovers and everything is fine. Your TV issue sounds along the same lines... don't know. I run X11 on the main rig because of some Wayland limitations in Spectacle (maybe fixed now?) and auto-type in my password vault. Sounds like I should test those things out again after upgrading Plasma!