Apex Legends now broken on Steam Deck and Linux desktops (update: fixed)

Quoting: F.UltraThose individuals where sued because they used software that uploaded the copyrighted material to other people while they where downloading it themselves. AFAIK no one have been sued for just downloading, it's distribution that is protected under copyright, for usage to be infringing you have to go to patents.

It's not just distribution that is protected under copyright, though I'm unsure if you're making this distinction. Unauthorized transcription, translation, performance, and of course, making an unauthorized copy of copyrighted content is copyright infringement. Though transcription sometimes falls under fair use. What do you do when you're downloading something? You're making a copy.

Putting aside whether seeding qualifies as distribution, there are plenty of instances of people being sued just for downloading content. Whether they would actually win that lawsuit, I don't know, but most defendants choose to settle before it reaches the court.

Here's the RIAA, a frequent customer of the court, on what they think:

Quoting: RIAAA long series of court rulings has made it very clear that uploading and downloading copyrighted music without permission on P2P networks constitutes infringement and could be a crime.

I'll have to read the Copyright Act for my country in full one day.

Edit: The article I referenced seems to also be related to seeding.


Last edited by pleasereadthemanual on 15 March 2022 at 3:16 am UTC

If you give money to a company to play game that uses scumbag DRM don't be surprised when that scumbag DRM screws you over. Don't worry they're having fun spending your money.

Good to see a lot of people enjoying it!

Quoting: pleasereadthemanual

Quoting: F.UltraThose individuals where sued because they used software that uploaded the copyrighted material to other people while they where downloading it themselves. AFAIK no one have been sued for just downloading, it's distribution that is protected under copyright, for usage to be infringing you have to go to patents.

It's not just distribution that is protected under copyright, though I'm unsure if you're making this distinction. Unauthorized transcription, translation, performance, and of course, making an unauthorized copy of copyrighted content is copyright infringement. Though transcription sometimes falls under fair use. What do you do when you're downloading something? You're making a copy.

Putting aside whether seeding qualifies as distribution, there are plenty of instances of people being sued just for downloading content. Whether they would actually win that lawsuit, I don't know, but most defendants choose to settle before it reaches the court.

Here's the RIAA, a frequent customer of the court, on what they think:

Quoting: RIAAA long series of court rulings has made it very clear that uploading and downloading copyrighted music without permission on P2P networks constitutes infringement and could be a crime.

I'll have to read the Copyright Act for my country in full one day.

Edit: The article I referenced seems to also be related to seeding.

It is all a moot point given that the file has been restored to Apex Legends in the last update. It would be ridiculous to go after people for distributing backups of a file that they are distributing to everyone.

Also, the RIAA saying “could be a crime” is rather ridiculous. Copyright infringement is a civil issue, not a criminal issue. As much as their industry would like to see capital punishment for distributing music files, it is not happening. To be clear, that is not an exaggeration. One of them actually lamented that the government in some country was not executing people for pirating music:

https://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/music-industry-lobby.html

These people have been lobbying to criminalize anything that might hurt their bottom line for decades.


Last edited by RichardYao on 15 March 2022 at 4:18 am UTC

Quoting: RichardYao

Quoting: pleasereadthemanual

Quoting: F.UltraThose individuals where sued because they used software that uploaded the copyrighted material to other people while they where downloading it themselves. AFAIK no one have been sued for just downloading, it's distribution that is protected under copyright, for usage to be infringing you have to go to patents.

It's not just distribution that is protected under copyright, though I'm unsure if you're making this distinction. Unauthorized transcription, translation, performance, and of course, making an unauthorized copy of copyrighted content is copyright infringement. Though transcription sometimes falls under fair use. What do you do when you're downloading something? You're making a copy.

Putting aside whether seeding qualifies as distribution, there are plenty of instances of people being sued just for downloading content. Whether they would actually win that lawsuit, I don't know, but most defendants choose to settle before it reaches the court.

Here's the RIAA, a frequent customer of the court, on what they think:

Quoting: RIAAA long series of court rulings has made it very clear that uploading and downloading copyrighted music without permission on P2P networks constitutes infringement and could be a crime.

I'll have to read the Copyright Act for my country in full one day.

Edit: The article I referenced seems to also be related to seeding.

It is all a moot point given that the file has been restored to Apex Legends in the last update. It would be ridiculous to go after people for distributing backups of a file that they are distributing to everyone.

Also, the RIAA saying “could be a crime” is rather ridiculous. Copyright infringement is a civil issue, not a criminal issue. As much as their industry would like to see capital punishment for distributing music files, it is not happening. To be clear, that is not an exaggeration. One of them actually lamented that the government in some country was not executing people for pirating music:

https://boingboing.net/2010/06/14/music-industry-lobby.html

These people have been lobbying to criminalize anything that might hurt their bottom line for decades.

I'm already well aware of how the RIAA feels about copyright infringement. I used them as an example because they're well-known to go after everybody, alive or dead, 12 years old or 80 years old, for unauthorized downloading of copyrighted content. If anyone were to go after people for downloading content, it would be them. I did not know, however, that the RIAA wanted capital punishment for infringers, though somehow I'm not surprised.

QuoteIt would be ridiculous to go after people for distributing backups of a file that they are distributing to everyone.

Maybe so, but this is copyright infringement nonetheless. Copyright is about preserving the copyright holder's monopoly over their creation. Ultimately, of course, the only entities that have the capital to pursue lawsuits for copyright infringement are corporations. I'm looking at this from a purely academic perspective because I'm interested in copyright. I don't even play Apex Legends and I probably never will.

The popular view at least in response to my comments seems to be that distribution is copyright infringement, but downloading copyrighted content is perfectly legal in the United States and everywhere. This doesn't sound correct to me, though I'm willing to be proven wrong. I have at least one source in my favor - even if it's Wikipedia.

Liam, you might want to update the article that they added the file again (which is deliberate, as it is the only change in the last patch), but keeping the overarching point that Deck Verified (or whatever cert program) needs to improve.

This makes me sad, but I'm sure they will fix it soon. I've already got over 10 hours of Linux playtime on Apex, such a fun game that I've missed a lot.

Just want to let people know that it appears another patch is going live tomorrow which adds the easyanticheat_x64.so file back where it belongs. source

Looks like they patched it back in: https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/8372024/

Can confirm I can launch the game without having to copy my backed up copy of the .so file.

Quoting: braiamLiam, you might want to update the article that they added the file again (which is deliberate, as it is the only change in the last patch), but keeping the overarching point that Deck Verified (or whatever cert program) needs to improve.

Yes all is good again! https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/8372024/

Still would like an official explanation how can these things "just happen".

Can't get much more critical than this. Where was testing on Linux part after the "improving update".....