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PayPalWere you hoping to play Destiny 2 on Steam Deck or a Linux desktop using Proton? Well, you're currently out of luck. Their updated Steam Guide has a newer section just for Steam Deck and it's not good news.
Like a lot of bigger games, they don't support Linux either natively or at all and right now it appears they don't have any plans to either. It reads:
Destiny 2 is not supported for play on the Steam Deck or on any system utilizing Steam Play's Proton unless Windows is installed and running. Players who attempt to launch Destiny 2 on the Steam Deck through SteamOS or Proton will be unable to enter the game and will be returned to their game library after a short time.
Players who attempt to bypass Destiny 2 incompatibility will be met with a game ban.
I've already seen a few places jump on that last line but it's pretty normal. Anyone who works around anti-cheat in online games, would face a ban. I mean, that's obvious really isn't it?
Note: Destiny 2 already has a full Linux port, since it runs on Stadia and it was properly ported for it.
For Destiny 2 to work with Proton if they decided not to bring over their Stadia Linux port to Steam, one thing Bungie would need to do is speak to BattlEye which it now uses, although that's only supposed to be a little email away to get hooked up.
Meanwhile, I don't want to hype it up too much just yet but Apex Legends now works on Linux with Proton and the Steam Deck. I even captured a little rough video for you. No confirmation yet to be clear so it's not official as far as I am concerned, so I'm hoping it's not another case of a game that will stop working in a day or two like has happened previously with multiple games. Given the Steam Deck is here though, and Apex had a dedicated Steam Deck branch we saw on SteamDB — I remain hopeful on that.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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rustybroomhandle Mar 3, 2022
Quoting: areamanplaysgameQuoting: GuestDestiny 2 is dead to me. I'll wait for the official go ahead to check out Apex Legends.
Apex Legends is not really a similar game at all unless you only play Destiny PvP. There is no PvE content in Apex at all.
There's always Warframe.
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Quoting: areamanplaysgameWhen it's just an email away I tend to think of it as such. They could just send the email and tell Linux gamers "Whatever, it's not supported but you're free to try it."Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.
It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.
While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.
It also supports the idea that we are Schrödinger's gamers, we're not enough for devs to be interested in supporting us but if they enable the anticheat, we'll be millions overnight.
Last edited by omer666 on 3 March 2022 at 1:26 pm UTC
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areamanplaysgame Mar 3, 2022
Quoting: omer666Quoting: areamanplaysgameWhen it's just an email away I tend to think of it as such. They could just send the email and tell Linux gamers "Whatever, it's not supported but you're free to try it."Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.
It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.
While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.
It also supports the idea that we are Schrödinger's gamers, we're not enough for devs to be interested in supporting us but if they enable the anticheat, we'll be millions overnight.
But it's not just an email away. Just getting anti-cheat enabled for the game on Linux may be just an email away, but making sure it works and supporting it require more resources than that. And I hope we are not naive enough to think that a live service game that sells content at premium prices can get away with saying, "We can't support the way you run the game, but you're welcome to try."
I want to reiterate that I am sorely disappointed by the decision. It won't make me not buy the Deck, and it might not even make me not buy more Destiny stuff going forward, but I sure would like to be able to play Destiny on the Deck.
Last edited by areamanplaysgame on 3 March 2022 at 7:33 pm UTC
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areamanplaysgame Mar 3, 2022
Quoting: rustybroomhandleQuoting: areamanplaysgameQuoting: GuestDestiny 2 is dead to me. I'll wait for the official go ahead to check out Apex Legends.
Apex Legends is not really a similar game at all unless you only play Destiny PvP. There is no PvE content in Apex at all.
There's always Warframe.
It looks similar superficially, but Warframe is even less like Destiny mechanically than Apex is, and it is absolutely the least welcoming game for new players in existence.
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Quoting: areamanplaysgameI am not naive, that's basically what id software did with its Linux ports, and that's how Proton works too. Nobody is asking them to "support" Linux, just not to prevent it from working.Quoting: omer666Quoting: areamanplaysgameWhen it's just an email away I tend to think of it as such. They could just send the email and tell Linux gamers "Whatever, it's not supported but you're free to try it."Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.
It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.
While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.
It also supports the idea that we are Schrödinger's gamers, we're not enough for devs to be interested in supporting us but if they enable the anticheat, we'll be millions overnight.
But it's not just an email away. Just getting anti-cheat enabled for the game on Linux may be just an email away, but making sure it works and supporting it require more resources than that. And I hope we are not naive enough to think that a live service game that sells content at premium prices can get away with saying, "We can't support the way you run the game, but you're welcome to try."
I want to reiterate that I am sorely disappointed by the decision. It won't make me not buy the Deck, and it might not even make me not buy more Destiny stuff going forward, but I sure would like to be able to play Destiny on the Deck.
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areamanplaysgame Mar 3, 2022
Quoting: omer666Quoting: areamanplaysgameI am not naive, that's basically what id software did with its Linux ports, and that's how Proton works too. Nobody is asking them to "support" Linux, just not to prevent it from working.Quoting: omer666Quoting: areamanplaysgameWhen it's just an email away I tend to think of it as such. They could just send the email and tell Linux gamers "Whatever, it's not supported but you're free to try it."Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.
It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.
While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.
It also supports the idea that we are Schrödinger's gamers, we're not enough for devs to be interested in supporting us but if they enable the anticheat, we'll be millions overnight.
But it's not just an email away. Just getting anti-cheat enabled for the game on Linux may be just an email away, but making sure it works and supporting it require more resources than that. And I hope we are not naive enough to think that a live service game that sells content at premium prices can get away with saying, "We can't support the way you run the game, but you're welcome to try."
I want to reiterate that I am sorely disappointed by the decision. It won't make me not buy the Deck, and it might not even make me not buy more Destiny stuff going forward, but I sure would like to be able to play Destiny on the Deck.
id software's Linux ports were released decades ago and were not live service games with paid DLC. And they were not expected to provide working anti-cheat protection.
Anti-cheat really is the issue here. If a single-player game doesn't work on Linux, it's the potential Linux player who loses out. But if anti-cheat doesn't work on Linux, it's the Windows players who are at risk.
Last edited by areamanplaysgame on 3 March 2022 at 8:51 pm UTC
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Quoting: areamanplaysgameI agree Quake 3 was not a persistent world, but it was online, and it supported Anti-cheat (Punkbuster).Quoting: omer666Quoting: areamanplaysgameI am not naive, that's basically what id software did with its Linux ports, and that's how Proton works too. Nobody is asking them to "support" Linux, just not to prevent it from working.Quoting: omer666Quoting: areamanplaysgameWhen it's just an email away I tend to think of it as such. They could just send the email and tell Linux gamers "Whatever, it's not supported but you're free to try it."Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.
It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.
While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.
It also supports the idea that we are Schrödinger's gamers, we're not enough for devs to be interested in supporting us but if they enable the anticheat, we'll be millions overnight.
But it's not just an email away. Just getting anti-cheat enabled for the game on Linux may be just an email away, but making sure it works and supporting it require more resources than that. And I hope we are not naive enough to think that a live service game that sells content at premium prices can get away with saying, "We can't support the way you run the game, but you're welcome to try."
I want to reiterate that I am sorely disappointed by the decision. It won't make me not buy the Deck, and it might not even make me not buy more Destiny stuff going forward, but I sure would like to be able to play Destiny on the Deck.
id software's Linux ports were released decades ago and were not live service games with paid DLC. And they were not expected to provide working anti-cheat protection.
Anti-cheat really is the issue here. If a single-player game doesn't work on Linux, it's the potential Linux player who loses out. But if anti-cheat doesn't work on Linux, it's the Windows players who are at risk.
As I said, there needs to be a bigger player base for Linux to represent a threat to Windows players. And if it ever grows by that much, making a native port can become an option.
Last edited by omer666 on 4 March 2022 at 3:24 pm UTC
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AussieEevee Mar 6, 2022
Quoting: Spl-itThey're not. They threaten people that disable the anti cheat with a ban.That's not what they're doing. They're saying anyone that managed to get the game running on proton... anti-cheat in place or disabled - will be banned. Which is scummy.
Because let's be honest here, the main reason to disable anti cheat... is to cheat
I have played a lot of games with anti-cheat systems in place through WINE/Proton - most notably World of Warcraft with its warden anti-cheat system - and never had a problem before.
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AussieEevee Mar 6, 2022
Quoting: areamanplaysgameDestiny 2 uses BattlEye as its anti-cheat system. BattlEye has supported Linux, by their own words, for a long time and will continue to support Linux for the foreseeable future.Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.
It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.
While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.
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areamanplaysgame Mar 10, 2022
Quoting: AussieEeveeQuoting: areamanplaysgameDestiny 2 uses BattlEye as its anti-cheat system. BattlEye has supported Linux, by their own words, for a long time and will continue to support Linux for the foreseeable future.Quoting: omer666For a company that started as a mac-exclusive, it is pretty goofy to be so hostile.
It's not especially hostile. The point is in order to make it work right now, you would have to defeat anti-cheat. Obviously they can't say that's OK.
While I am disappointed that they are not putting in the very little effort it would take to make the game playable on Linux, it's just business.
This is disingenuous. BattlEye doesn't "just work" on Linux. It requires an explicit opt-in by the devs, which implies that there is a reason devs might not want to opt in. It very likely comes with the same disclaimers as EAC, namely, that to be *really* effective, it needs to have kernel access, which is something you simply can't do on Linux because there isn't just one Linux kernel, and there are potentially an infinite number of custom kernels. Like it or not, this is a decision for the devs to make, and it carries a risk of making the game worse for existing players by introducing a new pool of players who, while not any more likely to cheat, probably can do so more easily.
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