CD Projekt RED 'working closely with Valve' as The Witcher 3 is Steam Deck Verified

Wow, the comments on that announcement seem to be 90% Russians yelling about nazis and calling CDPR "traitors" and stuff.

Wut? Doesn't someone have to be on your side before they can be a traitor? Never mind. I know I'm an ideologue, but I still don't fathom the thought processes of True Believers, on whatever side.

Wow, the comments on that announcement seem to be 90% Russians yelling about nazis and calling CDPR "traitors" and stuff.

It's saddening what propaganda can do to people.

Whose propaganda? Western?))

It will be difficult for Poles to return to the Russian market. Formally, they will return, but they have lost their respect and fans completely.

Not as difficult as Russia gaining back respect.

The text of the subtitles seems a bit small for reading on a 7-inch screen. Did they add a slider to change the text size or does it still require a mod to change it?

Wow, the comments on that announcement seem to be 90% Russians yelling about nazis and calling CDPR "traitors" and stuff.

It's saddening what propaganda can do to people.

People believe a lot of the propaganda because it confirms a lot of what they already believed. That's why it's so effective. After all, a lot of the people who make the propaganda are just regular people too, not cunning masterminds who brainwash the masses. It's something that has persisted in my country (America) for decades.

To be honest, I am a bit worried. Where I live (Austria) the politicians in charge are currently considering to ban Russian media. While I don't think that anything of value will be lost in this particular case, it's a slippery slope... We can see in Russia where it ends - where media cannot legally report about the invasion of Ukraine, because that would be "discrediting the Armed Forces"...

To be honest, I am a bit worried. Where I live (Austria) the politicians in charge are currently considering to ban Russian media. While I don't think that anything of value will be lost in this particular case, it's a slippery slope...

There must be some border line there. To give a more historically felt through example (especially for Austria), imagine there is some Himmler Media Co. running in your country. Does it deserve a ban?

In general it is of course the issue of where free speech ends and problems begin.


Last edited by Shmerl on 14 Mar 2022 at 7:35 pm UTC

Still waiting for that one: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy/release_the_gog_galaxy_client_for_linux

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People believe a lot of the propaganda because it confirms a lot of what they already believed.
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"People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they're afraid it might be true. Peoples' heads are full of knowledge, facts and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."

-- Wizard's First Rule, page 560

Still waiting for that one: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy/release_the_gog_galaxy_client_for_linux

Lutris, Minigalaxy and Heroic will help

Wow, the comments on that announcement seem to be 90% Russians yelling about nazis and calling CDPR "traitors" and stuff.

It's saddening what propaganda can do to people.

Whose propaganda? Western?))

It will be difficult for Poles to return to the Russian market. Formally, they will return, but they have lost their respect and fans completely.

It is not about returns. CD Projekt and GOG thanks to Europen Union sanctions for Russia and disable SWIFT can't selling games. Well, can sell, but payment methods are blocked. So the CDP's decision is somehow forced.

There are different ways to suspend sales. It is possible for objective reasons (a problem with payment), or you can hang a populist solution, like CDPR, and poison the players further (close the store for them, refuse clans in GWINT, etc.)

Consumers will remember this, don't worry. Sony and Nintendo to return (Nintendo have already changed the price tags). Someone silently raised the price (Elden Ring). Someone just keeps quiet (Valve and others).
And everyone else is waiting for a "warm" welcome.

Consumers will remember this, don't worry.

I don't think you get the severity of the situation. Consumers will worry about lack of necessities. Luxuries like games will be the least of their worries.

My commenting on it might jinx it, but I just have to...

When someone raised the Russia ban issue in this thread I kept reading the comments fully expecting that the whole thing would go downhill...

...but actually this is maybe the least tinfoilhat-ish exchange I've seen in several years regarding such heavy and controverted subjects, plus somehow it stayed reasonably on-topic throughout!

Who are you people, and what have you done to the internet?! :D

I own witcher 2+3 and never really played them. Certainly looking forward to try them again on my deck (just finished the real order *yay*)
Can I just start with witcher3 or should I go back to Witcher1 and walk through the series?
Anyway, very reassuring that CDPR is actually committed. Guess I'll go out of my way and order cyberpunk on next sale :D

If you have time (1 and 2 are "shorter" than 3), I suggest you walk through the series again.
There are a lot of references in each games about things that happened in the previous games, and I like how you can carry on from the save of the last game to the next one, keeping your equipment and part of your inventory, too.

Like, if Geralt is a traveller, he surely would have some possessions when going to a new location, right ?

Spoiler, click me

I also loved the fact that, in Witcher 3, you get all your money from the previous game, but you have to wait a certain point in story to be able to use it... Cleverly integrated in the lore of the game, and of course preventing being overpowered too early in the game, while rewarding you from playing through the series

Who are you people, and what have you done to the internet?! :D

This is one of those few occasions where the community is actually halfway decent. I've seen far worse, I just trawled though a few pages of comments on that steam announcement, and it's full of Russian speakers lashing out at people.
I guess we just care more about the games and linux and stuff, and there aren't too many ideologues here yet (unless you count free software and open source) so things are relatively calm. Also people here don't tend to be immature and jump to being abusive towards others.

It is nice to see.
What's also nice to see is CDPR showing some respect for a linux platform, finally. After the Witcher 3 release stuff, I'd given up hope. Then it started working under wine/vkd3d, and Cyberpunk worked fairly well straight out of the gate. Different times indeed.

To be honest, I am a bit worried. Where I live (Austria) the politicians in charge are currently considering to ban Russian media. While I don't think that anything of value will be lost in this particular case, it's a slippery slope...

There must be some border line there. To give a more historically felt through example (especially for Austria), imagine there is some Himmler Media Co. running in your country. Does it deserve a ban?

In general it is of course the issue of where free speech ends and problems begin.

That's true. It also speaks for itself that only one political party is opposed to the ban - the one that's known to have close ties to neo-Nazi organizations and has a rather recent corruption scandal involving a (fake) niece of a Russian oligarch with dirty toes...
(The other opposition parties, that voted for the ban, did voice concern though.)

or should I go back to Witcher1 and walk through the series?

Absolutely! Every game is good in its own way.

Witcher 1 is a very atmospheric game.

it's full of Russian speakers lashing out at people.

Russians do not blame people. They express their opinion against CDPR and that's it.
There are a lot of questions to these companies, and yesterday there were questions to Sony, which robbed Russians and retailers.

What's also nice to see is CDPR showing some respect for a linux platform, finally.

Stop deceiving yourself and others. CDPR does not support Linux.
7 years ago, for the sake of PR, they hung out a banner with "the upcoming SteamOS version of the game", and today they brag about "oh, look, Witcher 3 works on Linux!!!". Although they didn't do anything for it at all.

Stop giving them the fourth, fifth, sixth (or whatever it is?) chance. They have long shown their face and their attitude to Linux.

Ok but when and where is the Witcher 3 NEXT-GEN update coming?

CDPR does not support Linux.

They support it in the sense they have not done anything terrible to their Galaxy 2.0 launcher (like baking it against .NET stuff) and also they do support Linux with a easy script packaging system for developers. You can also select Linux as a platform on their website.

All in all they are second to Steam when it comes to Linux support. OR 3rd when you factor in Itch store.

Really all CDPR need to do is release their launcher as semi-open-source on github or something and allow Linux users to compile it for Linux. (and add in Linux/Mac as install options, and probably proton detection)


Last edited by TheRiddick on 15 Mar 2022 at 12:16 pm UTC

After all, a lot of the people who make the propaganda are just regular people too, not cunning masterminds who brainwash the masses.

Don’t sell propaganda short. The people that *actually* make up the propaganda (the ones who comes up with it and oversee it) are (in the modern era) often very competent psychologist of some kind or another. In older times, the propagandists were often very eloquent and charismatic people. In the west, this psychology of influencing people and/or the masses has been leveraged to create the field consumer physiology, in order to get people to buy shit they didn’t need.

Just look at the resources nazi Germany put into their propaganda machine, or how the Russian government invested in their cyber-misinformation program, or the western (especially US) companies invested heavily in consumer psychology and propaganda to further their economic interests at the expense of the legitimate interests of the people (e.g. the idea that privatization is the cure for everything).

It’s “regular people” in the same sense that it’s “regular people” who designed and built the Curiosity rover.


Last edited by Appelsin on 15 Mar 2022 at 12:28 pm UTC

Hi all, I get the world is a scary place right now with everything going on but let's try to keep our article comments somewhat on topic to the games being reported on and not pull in unrelated political issues? There's much better places to discuss that.

Wow, the comments on that announcement seem to be 90% Russians yelling about nazis and calling CDPR "traitors" and stuff.

Yes a polish studio traitors to Russia wow geography is not racists strong points is it. I ve seen those comments Jesus state owned media in Russia is really pushing that nazi thing a lot