GOG Games Festival is live with lots on sale and some demos up

Quoting: tpau

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualCan't get past one mention of GOG without talking about how GOG Galaxy doesn't have a GNU/Linux build.

There are various tools that cover that need like MiniGalaxy and Heroic.
The latter also installs linux native builds if available.

My point was more that other users can't stop mentioning it and what it means. Any post about GOG inevitably devolves into this. I don't mind the discussion, but no new points are ever raised.

It will inevitably take this form ad nauseum:

- GOG said they would release a GNU/Linux client in 2014. They didn't. They don't care about the platform, even though they should more than Windows. It's sad that Steam is doing more for GNU/Linux as a platform that ships a significant number of DRM'd games. I'm never buying another GOG game.
-- It doesn't bother me that GOG doesn't have a client. In fact, I prefer it that way—being forced to use a proprietary client to play a game like with Steam is far more annoying to me. I manage them in Lutris. If you want to use one, though, Minigalaxy has some of the features.
- But it doesn't have cloud saves, you can't play some online multiplayer games, [and it's missing some other features, probably].

Occasionally, as in this thread, there will be some discussion as to whether GOG's stance is morally or financially justified, perhaps a back-and-forth about GOG exposing the API.

I find it boring. But I suppose the comments section wouldn't be as lively without these comments.

I think the polarization won't change much, unless GOG/CDPR shows interest in Linux and stops their escalation.

The Darkside Detective is highly recommended. It does so much with so little. No voice acting, low res artwork, minimal animations and still manages to deliver!

The "Tome Alone" case was especially fun. You have to admire the mind that concocts a storyline with both Enid Blyton and Aleister Crowley. I'm not sure who was the most twisted of the two... eh, who am I kidding, it was certainly Blyton!

Quoting: kon14...even after rebuilding their client from scratch for 2.0...

Yeah, that's what gets me every single time. I mean, I'd still be annoyed with them if we were still on Galaxy 1.0 and they just didn't care about developing it any further and adding Linux support, but they actually did care enough about it and devoted enough resources on it to build it from effing scratch, and they still chose to use a Windows technology (.NET) and give Linux the finger. This is what adds insult to injury.

Quoting: PublicNuisance

Quoting: kon14Nah, I'll pass.
I used to buy stuff from GOG due to their DRM-free policy despite them not offering Steam-tier sales.

A whole lot has changed ever since and not a single bit of it is for the better.
Not only did CDPR publish a TW3 banner on the Steam Store's front page only to go forever silent over it, but they also just keep ignoring their long-promised Linux support for GOG, even after rebuilding their client from scratch for 2.0 and regardless of Linux support being by faaaar the most requested feature in their Galaxy wishlist.

Hell, it's even top rated in multiple threads too! 10 out of 11 recently top rated threads are all about Linux support and they have the audacity to suggest we install Windows on the SteamDeck despite them still offering native Linux builds on their store and Proton being a thing.

I hope they finally get a change of heart and get their shit together so I can get back to supporting them, but at this point it feels like they're just another inconvenient store, with pricier games, that may or may not be available for my platform and whatnot.
They're barely even DRM-free these days. Why would anyone in their right mind not just buy their stuff on Steam and call it a day at this point. They'd even be supporting Valve's efforts towards building a better desktop/graphics stack.

Might have something to do with idiots issuing death threats to CDPR over the Linux port of The Witcher 2. The Linux community had to learn the hard way that you can't pull that crap while being less than 1% of the PC gaming market and expect to do anything but become ignored. If you want to blame somebody start with the moron Linux gamers who pulled those stunts back in the day.

Only an utter idiot would receive death threats from a couple of other idiots who use XYZ OS and reach the conclusion that XYZ as a product is created and used solely by idiots who send death threats.

Quoting: tpau

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualCan't get past one mention of GOG without talking about how GOG Galaxy doesn't have a GNU/Linux build.

There are various tools that cover that need like MiniGalaxy and Heroic.
The latter also installs linux native builds if available.

That does indeed make the situation a lot better (I use Heroic) but it still doesn't change the fact that:

1) GOG Galaxy is needed for online functionality.
2) GOG as a company claims to be the champion of DRM-free in the gaming world but has chosen to activelly ignore Linux, who is the de facto champion of "DRM-free" in the whole goddamn world.

But oh well, I personally wouldn't ever buy a multiplayer game on GOG (in most cases there isn't even cross-play with Steam, so multiplayer games are ghost-towns), so at this point I don't even have a real reason to care about (2) anymore. Hypocrites will be hypocrites, but as long as I don't have a need to associate with them, then who cares?

Quoting: pleasereadthemanual

Quoting: tpau

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualCan't get past one mention of GOG without talking about how GOG Galaxy doesn't have a GNU/Linux build.

There are various tools that cover that need like MiniGalaxy and Heroic.
The latter also installs linux native builds if available.

My point was more that other users can't stop mentioning it and what it means. Any post about GOG inevitably devolves into this. I don't mind the discussion, but no new points are ever raised.

It will inevitably take this form ad nauseum:

- GOG said they would release a GNU/Linux client in 2014. They didn't. They don't care about the platform, even though they should more than Windows. It's sad that Steam is doing more for GNU/Linux as a platform that ships a significant number of DRM'd games. I'm never buying another GOG game.
-- It doesn't bother me that GOG doesn't have a client. In fact, I prefer it that way—being forced to use a proprietary client to play a game like with Steam is far more annoying to me. I manage them in Lutris. If you want to use one, though, Minigalaxy has some of the features.
- But it doesn't have cloud saves, you can't play some online multiplayer games, [and it's missing some other features, probably].

Occasionally, as in this thread, there will be some discussion as to whether GOG's stance is morally or financially justified, perhaps a back-and-forth about GOG exposing the API.

I find it boring. But I suppose the comments section wouldn't be as lively without these comments.

Can't say that I disagree with you much, but on the other hand, there is really not much else to be discussed about GOG and Linux, is there? I guess we could just call the case closed and stop writing comments altogether, but then what's the point of coming to the comment section in the first place?


Last edited by Nocifer on 22 March 2022 at 5:26 pm UTC

Quoting: Nocifer1) GOG Galaxy is needed for online functionality.

Which games are affected by this except Gwent?

Quoting: NociferCan't say that I disagree with you much, but on the other hand, there is really not much else to be discussed about GOG and Linux, is there? I guess we could just call the case closed and stop writing comments altogether, but then what's the point of coming to the comment section in the first place?

Maybe the ultimate solution would for GoL to stop promoting GoG. I know it's kind of a hard thing to do devs still offer Linux builds on GoG after all. But to me, it feels like less and less Linux users want to hear about and buy from them. So what's the point?

Quoting: NociferCan't say that I disagree with you much, but on the other hand, there is really not much else to be discussed about GOG and Linux, is there? I guess we could just call the case closed and stop writing comments altogether, but then what's the point of coming to the comment section in the first place?

I expect it in posts titled "GOG forgets GNU/Linux exists and recommends installing Windows to use their store", but this discourse has invaded every GOG post. I feel it's kind of becoming the equivalent of:

"you should call it Linux, not GNU/Linux," "but GNU was the original and deserves credit too," "what about X, Apache, and lots of other software not part of the GNU project—and the GPL doesn't enforce attribution," "yes those are important, but GNU is a complete operating system project and they are advocates for desktop users and their freedoms, not just enterprises, and corporates make so much money out of GNU/Linux because of the GPL," "corporate is an important part of why Linux is so successful," "certainly, but in the desktop GNU/Linux space, no one edges out the GNU Project in advocacy or contributions," "what, should we start calling it Apache/Linux for web servers, then?" ...

These people are clearly never going to find a way to agree with each other, and they just end up having the same conversations. But again, the comments section wouldn't be as lively without these comments.

I wasn't saying that everybody should capitulate to my desires and commenting preferences, just making an idle observation. Hell, even if I was saying that, who would listen? Don't mind me.

If anything, I'm probably more off-topic.

Quoting: DerpFox

Quoting: NociferCan't say that I disagree with you much, but on the other hand, there is really not much else to be discussed about GOG and Linux, is there? I guess we could just call the case closed and stop writing comments altogether, but then what's the point of coming to the comment section in the first place?

Maybe the ultimate solution would for GoL to stop promoting GoG. I know it's kind of a hard thing to do devs still offer Linux builds on GoG after all. But to me, it feels like less and less Linux users want to hear about and buy from them. So what's the point?

Despite my complaining, I'm happy to hear more about GOG.

Quoting: DerpFox

Quoting: NociferCan't say that I disagree with you much, but on the other hand, there is really not much else to be discussed about GOG and Linux, is there? I guess we could just call the case closed and stop writing comments altogether, but then what's the point of coming to the comment section in the first place?

Maybe the ultimate solution would for GoL to stop promoting GoG. I know it's kind of a hard thing to do devs still offer Linux builds on GoG after all. But to me, it feels like less and less Linux users want to hear about and buy from them. So what's the point?

Many Linux users buy from GOG, our partner stats show it clearly. Don't confuse a loud minority who bring all this up every time there's a GOG post with what people actually do.

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualDespite my complaining, I'm happy to hear more about GOG.

Don't get me wrong I like to hear about GoG, but lately news haven't been really positive overall. And I fear they wont be positive ever again. Also, I may be a tiny bit tired of their constant nagging via mail with their "super-duper sale just for me, and it's only going for a limited time".


Last edited by DerpFox on 23 March 2022 at 11:22 pm UTC