GOG suspends all sales in Russia and Belarus

Where were everyone's sanctions against China when they took over Hong Kong? Among probably at least a dozen other examples.

This is just a PR move, and I kinda hope it blows up in their faces.

I came here expecting some political blathering, Im not dissapointed.

Let's just appreciate for now people seem to be mostly respectful about it.

Yes! Lets make life on Russia miserable. I'm sure this will help improve their view on us Europeans and Americans. Lets force them to see China as the only solution. I'm sure it will be alright.


Last edited by eldarion on 4 Mar 2022 at 12:04 pm UTC

So i'll suspend all my buys on GOG

I came here expecting some political blathering, Im not dissapointed.

I came here to read some contemptuous messages on writings from other people discussing about what structure their life, liked by the owner, and Im not disappointed.

While I can understand what GOG is trying to do, I should say they aren't very good at explaining it to the customers. Yes, they wrote a statement, but that statement is somewhere at the bottom of the site, and on the second page already. And if I try to buy a game from them today (I'm from Belarus), I will only see that there is no box to enter my bank card number. No explanation, no link to the statement - simply no way to finish order. Looks like a site UI bug more than anything else.

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Also, on a side note, I would like this approach so much more...

Yeah, I don’t agree with gog here. They should keep selling the games and donate all proceeds they make from those sales to Ukraine. And put up a big banner telling their Russian costumers they’re doing it, let them vote with their wallets.

Where were everyone's sanctions against China when they took over Hong Kong? Among probably at least a dozen other examples.

This is just a PR move, and I kinda hope it blows up in their faces.

There have been at least 20 sanctions against China since 1949, nothing as global as today's sanctions against Russia but I can promise you that if China decided to invade Taiwan they would be put under equal sanctions as Russia is today.

Nobody is actually willing to hear the sad truth, the propaganda sounds more comfortable.

If this is the truth, then any russian is simply dump... and I don't think so.
Honstly I believe they fear to get arrested and vanish... another sign of a dictators power.

It's easy to think this way but unfortunately you don't have to be dumb to be fooled by propaganda, it works just as good on Einstein level geniuses as the local village idiot. And that is why it exists, had it only affected the dumb people then no one would have ever bothered with it since the value would be minimal.

As an example just go over to Phoronix right now, people who are normally sane and of average intelligence are now there spewing insane ideas of Putin liberating the Ukrainian population from Nazis and so forth.

Nobody is actually willing to hear the sad truth, the propaganda sounds more comfortable.

If this is the truth, then any russian is simply dump... and I don't think so.
Honstly I believe they fear to get arrested and vanish... another sign of a dictators power.

It's easy to think this way but unfortunately you don't have to be dumb to be fooled by propaganda, it works just as good on Einstein level geniuses as the local village idiot. And that is why it exists, had it only affected the dumb people then no one would have ever bothered with it since the value would be minimal.

As an example just go over to Phoronix right now, people who are normally sane and of average intelligence are now there spewing insane ideas of Putin liberating the Ukrainian population from Nazis and so forth.

People prefer their information bubble, also lots of people are true animals now and enjoy people suffering,
and I'd say about 50% people are like this now. I don't understand how people having kids going to school
can become as animalistic... but remembering 1945 Germans I guess it is the same phenomenon.
People just deny what they see or when they see and believe it happens they think Putin can't be wrong, so if
Putin eats people then this is right thing to do, so they have to praise it and follow the trend. And it will
be very hard to make them understand (and sanctions won't work because logic will be misunderstood). And if these
people left alone they will end up building nazi state next and danger will not go away.

let me step in, i'm from Belarus. I understand the GOG's move but i must clarify the situation in Belarus. We protested against lukashenko in 2020-21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Belarusian_protests. Personally i was in a custody because of it. There were tortures and at least 15 people were killed during protests. We are UNDER OCCUPATION now by fascist regimes. People of Belarus do not support war! They hate and despise putler/lukashenko. We live like in GULAG now. And even now people try to protest. 800 were detained in one day at anti-war protests. Some even began a rail war by destroying rw infrastructure to break russian troops supply chain.

Sabotaging Russian troops does sound helpful. If Ukraine falls, that can't be good for Belarus either.

Come to think of it, best outcome would come from revolution. Current regime is not considered trustworthy and current situation has opened some old wounds, especially in countries that have been previously been occupied Russia (or Soviet Union to be exact in most of the cases). Even if current regime would back out, that would probably not end all sanctions.

If key people die, go into exile or something similar, there's no guarantee that replaced by anything better. Military coup would have similar risks.

As for if revolution and would actually have impact, [Arab Spring](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring) was quite massive set of uprisings with varied outcomes. There [have been also studies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring#Outcomes) what made the difference between successful and unsuccessful uprising. I haven't read the actual studies, but Wikipedia mentions that countries with infrastructure in good shape and low levels of corruption could have chance. Level of censorship is also a factor.

In case of Belarus having Russian troops in the country doesn't though help at all.

I disagree, helping Ukraine stand now will save both Ukraine and Russia. Losing Ukraine will end up as long standing
problem for both Europe and world. Also China will benefit from everything.

It all depends on what you refer as "helping". Helping to evacuate is one thing, giving more guns and forcing people to fight a war they don't want to is another.

Ukraine needs weapons and support, not trash talk from cheap cowards.

I disagree, helping Ukraine stand now will save both Ukraine and Russia. Losing Ukraine will end up as long standing
problem for both Europe and world. Also China will benefit from everything.

It all depends on what you refer as "helping". Helping to evacuate is one thing, giving more guns and forcing people to fight a war they don't want to is another.

Ukraine needs weapons and support, not trash talk from cheap cowards.

Indeed. Being pacifist is nice and all, but fighting against Russian invasion at the moment is much better alternative. It's Russia that's forcing people to fight war people don't want to fight.

Without giving weapons there's soon no need to evacuate. If we go to back to glory days of Soviet Union, borders will be closed and nobody is allowed to leave the country.

And here I thought political comments were against the rules.

And here I thought political comments were against the rules.

At least as far as the article goes, we are not far into offtopic territory. It would be hard to not to discuss about politics when article discusses about sanctions.

And here I thought political comments were against the rules.

At least as far as the article goes, we are not far into offtopic territory. It would be hard to not to discuss about politics when article discusses about sanctions.

- Politics is important, it affects everything and everyone. However, be mindful of what you talk about and spread. If it is likely to cause arguments, don't post it. Most of the time, political chat isn't really needed here. Obviously if we cover something political, that is inviting respectable debate keeping all the other rules in mind.

Political discussion is fine when it's topical, disinformation and arguments are not.

Ukraine needs weapons and support, not trash talk from cheap cowards.

Do whatever you want with your life, but do not force people to fight when they have other priorities.

Indeed. Being pacifist is nice and all, but fighting against Russian invasion at the moment is much better alternative. It's Russia that's forcing people to fight war people don't want to fight.

Without giving weapons there's soon no need to evacuate. If we go to back to glory days of Soviet Union, borders will be closed and nobody is allowed to leave the country.

This is not about being pacifist but being rational. A lot of people aren't willing to fight, why force them? Maybe for some people a piece of land is worth their life, but for many other the life of a son or having your father alive worth's way more.

You need to get some perspective on this conflict. Ukraine doesn't have a chance to win unless western super powers get directly involved, but that will not happen for obvious reasons. So, the only valid strategy against Russia is to use their weakness and right now that weakness is economic. The best we can do is to save as many lives we can.


Last edited by x_wing on 5 Mar 2022 at 1:50 pm UTC

And here I thought political comments were against the rules.

At least as far as the article goes, we are not far into offtopic territory. It would be hard to not to discuss about politics when article discusses about sanctions.

- Politics is important, it affects everything and everyone. However, be mindful of what you talk about and spread. If it is likely to cause arguments, don't post it. Most of the time, political chat isn't really needed here. Obviously if we cover something political, that is inviting respectable debate keeping all the other rules in mind.

Political discussion is fine when it's topical, disinformation and arguments are not.

"Disinformation"? I see what you did there.

And here I thought political comments were against the rules.

At least as far as the article goes, we are not far into offtopic territory. It would be hard to not to discuss about politics when article discusses about sanctions.

- Politics is important, it affects everything and everyone. However, be mindful of what you talk about and spread. If it is likely to cause arguments, don't post it. Most of the time, political chat isn't really needed here. Obviously if we cover something political, that is inviting respectable debate keeping all the other rules in mind.

Political discussion is fine when it's topical, disinformation and arguments are not.

"Disinformation"? I see what you did there.

What do you mean? Isn't that exactly what "be mindful of what you [...] spread" is about?

It's Russia and USA. And Russia is certainly the worse of the two, by a long shot.

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American has more 800 bases in foreign country,In the last 20 years it has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan under false claim lying directly to the assembly in UN,bombed and invaded Syria while funding and arming opposition that lead to the creating of daesh, backed coups in Bolivia against democratically elected preisdents Evo Morales, killed and impression countless of people in blacksites, has the larges prisoner population, suppress and kill labor activist,has multiple credits system that far worst than social credits score of china, has a propaganda machine so good that your saying this sort of thing.


Both are fucking dogshit, but claims that Russia is worst than the US empire is plainly wrong.