OneXPlayer are a series of handheld gaming devices, they're somewhat popular and it appears they've been keeping a close eye on SteamOS and how it's been working on the Steam Deck.
Currently they offer various models like the OneXPlayer Mini, OneXPlayer 1S, two AMD models and the One-GX 1 Laptop. However, all of them currently ship with Windows. Some of them are pretty powerful too, like the currently sold-out "ONEXPLAYER AMD® - 8.4 inch Ryzen® 5700U" model. Their prices are quite a bit higher than Steam Deck too, with that model in particular retailing at $1,419.
The good news is that they might actually be shipping SteamOS Linux in future, bringing them more in line with what the Steam Deck can do. As WePC recently did an interview with the VP of OneXPlayer, Jason Zeng. Here's the excerpt:
Zeng continued to share his opinions on Valve’s market-disrupting machine by giving his stance on how Valve managed to achieve success with the device. ‘Steam Deck is a very influential product that has managed to leverage its accumulated assets and bring [the] public’s attention to the field of portable gaming. We sincerely congratulate Steam Deck for its achievements, and will keep working on our competitive edges.’
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Of particular note is how the Proton developers actually improved performance in games such as Elden Ring, which highlights the OS against running something a little harder on the system like Windows 11. Zeng comments that the team has been ‘working on’ shipping the OneXPlayer line of devices with a build of Linux or SteamOS in the future.
Having more devices out there shipping Linux sound awesome. However, they seem to have no plans for cheaper devices right now, so you might want to keep waiting on and sticking with the Steam Deck if you don't have a ton of spare cash stuffed under your bed.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: ElamanOpiskelijaQuoting: eldakingBut I must say I find these expensive devices kind of a dead end. At that price point you are more or less competing with actual gaming PCs
I know, right? Same here. And yet, we have seen one kickstarter after another succeed (or indiegogo), and get funded in record time: AYA Neo, OneXPlayer, GPD Win, whatever, all more expensive.
Another thing that it's a serious question from me and I still don't get is: what is this device offering that is so important, that a small laptop cannot? What is the use case?
we see a lot of sucessful kickstarters because there are a few people who are willing to pay for it, but if you take a look at the number of people who actually funded it, its not even close to the ammount of people who buy an nintendo, sony or microsoft console.
a few thousands vs tens of milions.
as for what they are offereing, have you ever hold an portable console or even an controller on your hand? they arent even comparable, that is like comparing using an phone to make an call to bringing your laptop to the streets and holding then next to your ear to make an call.
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Philadelphus Mar 31, 2022
Quoting: ElamanOpiskelijaAnother thing that it's a serious question from me and I still don't get is: what is this device offering that is so important, that a small laptop cannot? What is the use case?Can't play on a laptop while standing up on the train*.
Goodness knows I've spent enough days on Melbourne public transport where there was no place to sit in the past…*At least, not without additional hardware and looking really goofy.
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slaapliedje Mar 31, 2022
Quoting: CatKillerNot all of them: the GPD boss went on a public rant about how the Deck was terrible because it couldn't run pirated games. I think he was feeling rather threatened by it.Haha, what? Besides, why couldn't you run pirated games on the Deck? Removing the copy protection generally makes it easier to run things.
I was shocked when Pools of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor just worked out of the box with the CD check. I don't think it will even work on Windows 10.
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Quoting: CatKillerQuoting: eldakingBut I must say I find these expensive devices kind of a dead end.It's a question of scale. The price per unit is vastly different if you're buying a thousand compared to if you're buying ten million, multiplied out by every component in your device.
Yeah, it's not like any company can make a large "print run" to get cheaper costs (and dilute the costs of development, customized parts, and so on). But then you also need higher margins due to selling fewer units, and since it is going to be expensive anyway those companies just go all in and make it a high-end device, since they are going to market mostly to a small niche of people with a lot of money. There is a market for that, but it is severely limited.
I'm looking more for the equivalent of chromebooks for this form factor than for the equivalents of Alienware.
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Quoting: LoftyQuoting: CatKillerbut you can't just play on them wherever.
the toilet.. you mean the toilet.
Sssh, don't reveal the Valves secret plan to make profit. Selling replacement devices for all those Decks that have been dropped into the toilet.
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Quoting: slaapliedjeHaha, what? Besides, why couldn't you run pirated games on the Deck? Removing the copy protection generally makes it easier to run things.
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QuoteTherefore, although G fat verbally supports Windows (it seems that he has not found the source), some people think that G fat has lofty goals and ambitions in all directions. But I think you Naive, the pattern is broken, and you don't understand the logic of capital. Think about it, selling a hardware that supports Windows 10 to a player who plays pirated games without making money or even losing money, what does he want, just a smile from Bojun? No capital is going to lose money and make a profit.
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slaapliedje Mar 31, 2022
Quoting: AnzaTheir next version of course will have IP68 rating...Quoting: LoftyQuoting: CatKillerbut you can't just play on them wherever.
the toilet.. you mean the toilet.
Sssh, don't reveal the Valves secret plan to make profit. Selling replacement devices for all those Decks that have been dropped into the toilet.
I always thought that was how smart phones were thought up.
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Quoting: libgradevThere is one other vital thing (which goes double for portable devices): The technology being able to fit into the user's life, instead of expecting the user to change their life to fit around the technology.Quoting: elmapulentrey cost is very important for an gaming device to sell tens of millions of units, more than the price of the games after the initial purchase it seems.
This and game availability are the two most important aspects imho - Deck has both
If anyone remembers the Rabbit mobile telephones that launched in the UK in the early 1990s and then quickly died out during the same period, those were an example of that very issue - it turned out that people didn't want a mobile-phone that couldn't take incoming calls and which required you to drive to specific locations and park close enough to them in order to (hopefully) place outgoing ones.
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Quoting: elmapulQuoting: eldakingThere is a reason Valve and Nintendo made sacrifices to reach the more moderate price points.
completely agree, its just a matter of seeing PS3 lauch price and how it affected it.
or even the last gen PS4 vs xbox one, sony was selling much more than microsoft, due to (among other things) it being more powerfull and the marketing fiasco microsoft did at the begining of the gen.
microsoft removed xbox requirement puting the price on pair with ps4, and that was not enough, then they did an price cut of 50USD, and that was enough for a little bit, the reason why that was not enough is because sony followed their price cuts.
entrey cost is very important for an gaming device to sell tens of millions of units, more than the price of the games after the initial purchase it seems.
But there's a reason why Sony, Microsoft and Valve afford to make something like this cheap, and others can't. They make money from games sold for the console too. So if, say, they make 0 money from selling the hardware it doesn't matter. Even if they lose a little bit it doesn't matter.
But a company that doesn't make any money from people buying games on Steam (but on their handheld) can't afford to bring the price down as much as Valve can. They could only compete in price if either they make their own store, or if Valve cuts them a check for people playing Steam games on their platform.
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Quoting: slaapliedjeI was shocked when Pools of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor just worked out of the box with the CD check. I don't think it will even work on Windows 10.I love that game, but is a bag of worms in terms of bugs, and usually was easier to get it working on wine than Windows ever since the days of Vista.
Alas, there are many older games that do require CD check that you have to use a noCD cracked exe
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