War Thunder major update 'Wind of Change' out now

How's the native client going nowadays? Haven't played it in a long time since EAC got introduced and back then the native client was more or less useless.

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

How's the native client going nowadays? Haven't played it in a long time since EAC got introduced and back then the native client was more or less useless.

Last time I tried the native Linux client was after they switched to Vulkan. While performance has improved compared to OpenGL, it's still not as good as running it via Proton/DXVK and it's still a buggy abomination. Just look at the Linux issues reported in War Thunder forums. It crashes a lot and there are ridiculous issues like Texture quality limited to medium.
On Proton/DXVK it runs beautifully. I have an RX 580 and I actually get higher fps on Proton/DXVK than on Windows/DX11.
So if you don't play realistic battles (since that's the only game mode that requires EAC), there's just no reason to use the native client.


Last edited by user1 on 24 March 2022 at 4:43 pm UTC

Uninstalled since 24 February 2022. Couldn't stand knowing about the developers Russian roots combined with them not taking a stance other than censoring their forums and social media channels while urging it's users to be apolitical (the very thing that enables the war criminals in the Kremlin in the first place).

On Proton/DXVK it runs beautifully. I have an RX 580 and I actually get higher fps on Proton/DXVK than on Windows/DX11.

I've seen a few people saying stuff like this lately about a few games. How does this even happen? What happened to the inevitable overhead of a translation layer?

How's the native client going nowadays? Haven't played it in a long time since EAC got introduced and back then the native client was more or less useless.

Can't complain. With 2560x1440 on "movie quality" I get around 100fps+ for most of the time on my RX5700/AMD 5900X combo. Crashes do occur, but not too often: On average I'd say about every 30 or 40 matches I experience a crash which seems to be completely random - talking to my Windows teammates this seems to be comparable to their OS, OTOH my son playing it on a Ubuntu/NVidia combo doesn't report any crashes. RADV offers better performance than AMDVLK (a few months ago AMDVLK was barely usable). One bug remains: Colored discs appearing occassionally the sky when an explosion happens elsewhere. Used to be pretty bad, hardly happens after the last few updates.

On Proton/DXVK it runs beautifully. I have an RX 580 and I actually get higher fps on Proton/DXVK than on Windows/DX11.

I've seen a few people saying stuff like this lately about a few games. How does this even happen? What happened to the inevitable overhead of a translation layer?

While it's true that Wine might have some overhead, It seems negligible in games. I remember someone compared Doom Eternal performance on Windows and Linux with Nvidia (which uses the same driver on both platforms) and the performance was even a bit better on Linux. Regarding DXVK, I haven't seen a lot of comparison benchmarks lately, but I think in my case it's because RADV+DXVK being more performant than AMD's DX11 driver.

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

In game chat stopped you playing a game ? I mean you enabled it, so presumably you could disable it and you thought it was cool prior to enabling the chat also.

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

In game chat stopped you playing a game ? I mean you enabled it, so presumably you could disable it and you thought it was cool prior to enabling the chat also.

Do I really need to elaborate?

On Proton/DXVK it runs beautifully. I have an RX 580 and I actually get higher fps on Proton/DXVK than on Windows/DX11.

I've seen a few people saying stuff like this lately about a few games. How does this even happen? What happened to the inevitable overhead of a translation layer?

I can't speak for the exact reason, but for the last few years every game i have played on proton was smoother than the native version. Is it the Vulkan pipeline vs native openGL ? Is it the way in which vsync seems to work better on proton ? Is it that Vulkan lowers CPU overhead and my CPU is weak ? Or is it that Linux has more CPU overhead for gaming than windows when taking certain video drivers into account (It used to be like this for AMD afaik, maybe less so now) and so Vulkan removes that constraint ?

In any case i barely bother running native now if i have the choice, not least because i can run FSR and get custom resolutions working. Have properly working vsync no matter what, have the game run more consistently and feel exactly like im playing the 'full fat' experience, no drop in options of graphics settings.

Im sure if the game was made on Linux and used Vulkan with some optimizations it would be 10 - 15% faster than windows. But most aren't so i stick to proton.

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

In game chat stopped you playing a game ? I mean you enabled it, so presumably you could disable it and you thought it was cool prior to enabling the chat also.

Do I really need to elaborate?

Of course it's your choice, but missing out on an entire gaming experience because of [going to assume it's an 'ism thing] when you have the option to just not enable the text seems like your the one who is suffering. How many games are you going to read stuff you don't like in ? Eventually if it's online almost all of them which means no or minimal online gaming for you i guess.
Don't get me wrong i respect that you stuck to your values [a rare quality]. A long while ago i decided to refund a game in a similar manner although for me the game had forced ON voice chat and pretty much minimum 32 - 64 players screaming at each other every round.. but if it was just a text box i could disable then i would not of done it. Most games you can't even disable the text chat so with war thunder you have even more options than 90% of other online games.

Each to their own.


Last edited by Lofty on 24 March 2022 at 8:58 pm UTC

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

In game chat stopped you playing a game ? I mean you enabled it, so presumably you could disable it and you thought it was cool prior to enabling the chat also.

Do I really need to elaborate?

Of course it's your choice, but missing out on an entire gaming experience because of [going to assume it's an 'ism thing] when you have the option to just not enable the text seems like your the one who is suffering. How many games are you going to read stuff you don't like in ? Eventually if it's online almost all of them which means no or minimal online gaming for you i guess.
Don't get me wrong i respect that you stuck to your values [a rare quality]. A long while ago i decided to refund a game in a similar manner although for me the game had forced ON voice chat and pretty much minimum 32 - 64 players screaming at each other every round.. but if it was just a text box i could disable then i would not of done it. Most games you can't even disable the text chat so with war thunder you have even more options than 90% of other online games.

Each to their own.

To keep it short:
Before reading the chat I thought we were all having fun.
After reading the chat I realized that everybody was hating everyone else, including the members of their own team.
I tried to continue with the chat disabled, but the fun wasn't there anymore.

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

In game chat stopped you playing a game ? I mean you enabled it, so presumably you could disable it and you thought it was cool prior to enabling the chat also.

Do I really need to elaborate?

Of course it's your choice, but missing out on an entire gaming experience because of [going to assume it's an 'ism thing] when you have the option to just not enable the text seems like your the one who is suffering. How many games are you going to read stuff you don't like in ? Eventually if it's online almost all of them which means no or minimal online gaming for you i guess.
Don't get me wrong i respect that you stuck to your values [a rare quality]. A long while ago i decided to refund a game in a similar manner although for me the game had forced ON voice chat and pretty much minimum 32 - 64 players screaming at each other every round.. but if it was just a text box i could disable then i would not of done it. Most games you can't even disable the text chat so with war thunder you have even more options than 90% of other online games.

Each to their own.

To keep it short:
Before reading the chat I thought we were all having fun.
After reading the chat I realized that everybody was hating everyone else, including the members of their own team.
I tried to continue with the chat disabled, but the fun wasn't there anymore.

Sounds like what happened with me and Dota 2. Such a shame, loved the gameplay but talking is part of it and people are just terrible.

To keep it short:
Before reading the chat I thought we were all having fun.
After reading the chat I realized that everybody was hating everyone else, including the members of their own team.
I tried to continue with the chat disabled, but the fun wasn't there anymore.

Maybe the next match may of have been different? I have been in games where the chat was really killing the fun vibe and then the next time i load the game chat has been hilarious or pretty chill. I get where you coming from though, with 250 million steam accounts there are going to be a plentiful amount of a-holes and war games aren't exactly a place where people go to express peace, love and harmony. It can really ruin a game, but im willing to keep at it at least for a while as i know not all of the times i play are going to be like that.

That said i don't play a lot of online games these days on voice, but im fairly sure it's not as savage as xboxlive was back in the days on games like COD 🤯


Last edited by Lofty on 24 March 2022 at 10:45 pm UTC

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

Really? What? I mean War Thunder is super-tame. Really. I've played Heroes of Newerth. Once. That was pure constant verbal abuse. But War Thunder? Come on, some frustrated dude might call you an idiot (this dude could be me), but that's about how far it goes. Since the invasion of Ukraine they've disabled the chat entirely, but even before that everything was pretty civilized. The most severe incident was some guy spouting antisemitism. Got reported (and probably banned).

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

Really? What? I mean War Thunder is super-tame. Really. I've played Heroes of Newerth. Once. That was pure constant verbal abuse. But War Thunder? Come on, some frustrated dude might call you an idiot (this dude could be me), but that's about how far it goes. Since the invasion of Ukraine they've disabled the chat entirely, but even before that everything was pretty civilized. The most severe incident was some guy spouting antisemitism. Got reported (and probably banned).

Not sure why not one, but two people are busily telling dubigrasu how they're supposed to feel about things. If they're not enjoying it, they're not enjoying it--you can't force them to.

Not sure why not one, but two people are busily telling dubigrasu how they're supposed to feel about things. If they're not enjoying it, they're not enjoying it--you can't force them to.

that's a strange interpretation. From my posts in any case.

Man, I remember playing this extensively back in the day, it was probably my first foray in multiplayer games.
I thought it was so cool to play with other real people, not npc/whatever.
That until I enabled the chat and read it. I never played it again.

Really? What? I mean War Thunder is super-tame. Really. I've played Heroes of Newerth. Once. That was pure constant verbal abuse. But War Thunder? Come on, some frustrated dude might call you an idiot (this dude could be me), but that's about how far it goes. Since the invasion of Ukraine they've disabled the chat entirely, but even before that everything was pretty civilized. The most severe incident was some guy spouting antisemitism. Got reported (and probably banned).

Not sure why not one, but two people are busily telling dubigrasu how they're supposed to feel about things. If they're not enjoying it, they're not enjoying it--you can't force them to.

Sure if he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. It's just I can't imagine that he can enjoy any other multiplayer online game, since from my experience they are all far far worse.

Sure if he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. It's just I can't imagine that he can enjoy any other multiplayer online game, since from my experience they are all far far worse.

Me, I basically quit multiplayer games back in the old CoD BlackOps days, when you couldn't choose a server with decently people (banning indecently behaving people) anymore. Frozen Synapse was a great exception.

How's the native client going nowadays? Haven't played it in a long time since EAC got introduced and back then the native client was more or less useless.

Much better now, the vulkan port did improved the game a lot in linux, from the old opengl4 (and then back to opengl3, shared with mac, as opengl4 was only used in linux and they wanted to free resources for vulkan developement)
previous release did had sometimes a hole in the sky, but in this new release i still didn't found any problem.

Performance is good, i do not have windows to compare and i avoid wine/proton. I play mostly realistic battles and had no problems