Windows drivers roll out for Steam Deck but Valve won't support it

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: CyrilNot to mention that, last time I installed Windows 10 for a test for someone, it took more than an hour to finally get to the desktop. Linux install, on the same PC, took 10 minutes.
It's amazing how shitty Windows can be.

... and you've got loads of productive software on Linux after this install.

Quoting: CyrilAnd oh my god, the annoying questions about privacy at the beginning... xD

That's an easy one though ;) : Change every single option and you're fine.

Oh yeah but I forgot one thing though! The even more annoying online account!
If you want an offline one, you don't have the option to do it, you have to unplug physically the cable or disconnect the Wi-Fi!

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: EikeDo you have a link how to do this?

Here ya go:
https://www.geeks.lgbt/diy-steamos-3-0/
Do the last two steps (opt in to beta and pass
-gamepadui to steam)

Thanks

Though my Firefox doesn't want to load this as they don't support TLS 1.2. :-/

The TLS stuff is weird as I can access it fine with FireDragon (a Librewolf fork)
This is how you should opt in to beta:
 
echo "steampal_stable_9a24a2bf68596b860cb6710d9ea307a76c29a04d" > ~/.steam/steam/package/beta

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: CyrilNot to mention that, last time I installed Windows 10 for a test for someone, it took more than an hour to finally get to the desktop. Linux install, on the same PC, took 10 minutes.
It's amazing how shitty Windows can be.

... and you've got loads of productive software on Linux after this install.

Quoting: CyrilAnd oh my god, the annoying questions about privacy at the beginning... xD

That's an easy one though ;) : Change every single option and you're fine.

Well, for the moment. It will bitch at you every so often forever that you chose the wrong option and should consider doing it their way.

If Microsoft Windows Deck will took off, I imagining Valve, Steam, Steam Deck support will get plenty of support tickets after some random Windows update, even Valve clearly states Widows OS unsupported. Ofc most will no disclose running Windows OS until asked.

I don't know about you all, but the idea of a piece of (fine?) consumer hardware that comes with full support for Linux and "you're on your own, fix it yourself" on Windows gives such a sweeeeeeeet taste of revenge.

First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
Then they must wait for audio drivers to be released to run Windows on the Deck.

What an incredible 31 years journey has been!

Just another general observation. Why people demanding: Valve must take care support of 3rd party services like: EA Origin, Ubisoft (Uplay) Connect, EGS etc. It's Valve Steam Deck not Origin/Uplay/EGS/etc Deck.

Even Windows (Other) OS support not on Valve. Someone will jump on and say "but it is PC"... Most Microsoft Surface "tablets" just another pc/laptop hardware with MS Windows log on them, same goes with previous Apple laptops/workstations. Other OS support, for some reason, taken care by Linux/BSD folks not Microsoft or Apple. "Most sales on Windows" some one will say. Microsoft (Windows OS) making PC/laptops more and more like XBox One always-online DRM boxes and it will (may) bite 3rd party software dev (Steam for e.g.) and other user in the ass.

It's a real shame that Valve didn't do what the vast majority of hardware manufactures did when asking for a linux drivers!

"We don't support that OS you will have to rely on third party support or write your own"

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualI know Windows has a reputation for slowing down over time—primarily due to its dated filesystem—but I wonder if this is still true. Windows as of late seems to be more well-optimized for older hardware.

It's generally seemed to me that the primary reason for the slowdown of Windows over time is registry cruft (at least since Windows 2000 and its automatic defragmentation).

Be that as it may, Windows 10 deals with low powered CPUs significantly better than Windows 7 does. However, for some reason it deals with limited memory worse than 7 (for example, 7 works significantly better with 2 GB of RAM than Windows 10) and it requires more disk space than 7.


Last edited by CFWhitman on 11 March 2022 at 9:37 pm UTC

Quoting: CFWhitman

Quoting: pleasereadthemanualI know Windows has a reputation for slowing down over time—primarily due to its dated filesystem—but I wonder if this is still true. Windows as of late seems to be more well-optimized for older hardware.

It's generally seemed to me that the primary reason for the slowdown of Windows over time is registry cruft.

It's long time ago that I had the feeling that Windows would get slower over time. Didn't ever measure, but if it still is, it's at least not hindering me. (Doing work, software development, on Windows 10.)

Even if I wanted, I wouldn't be able to install Windows. There is so much useless stuff that MS is force feeding us, on that OS... Made by Microsoft, for Microsoft.

"All you have to do is edit the registry here, disable that, edit that thing, return in the registry, download and install drivers". And all the while reboot, reboot, reboot!

I have to put 30-45 mins just to hack and configure through the OS to make it run like I want and I didn't include the initial update process... "I'm to old for that sh&t!"

"When it comes to Linux, 10 mins, fully updated and Steam is fired...

And they say Linux is a rabbit hole...

That's when I realized that Windows wasn't for me anymore.


Last edited by Mohandevir on 11 March 2022 at 9:43 pm UTC