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PayPalThink GPD are a trustworthy company to buy devices from? Well, with the Steam Deck now here, they appear desperate.
Recently, they started taking various Steam Deck videos from YouTube creators, sticking them together with a look at their own devices and not crediting any of the people who put the work into those videos. On top of that, GPD has been attaching a "Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)" license to the videos, again, without permission from the original creators.
It's not a good look, and some of those creators have started fighting back.
When pulling them up on it on Twitter, I expected some sort of reply (even a snarky one to my obvious bait) or just to do the honourable thing to correctly get permission for using videos from other people. At the very least slapping in a link to the channels they're pinching things from in the description / a pinned comment for people to see. Did any of that happen? No. Instead, here's the official response from GPD:
I've never personally used one of their devices, and would have happily taken a look at any point with Linux installed onto one. Even some direct Steam Deck comparisons. Now though? This is not painting a good picture of GPD as a company.
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This is the same company that previously tried to steer people towards them instead of Valve, because the Steam Deck was going to be a "closed system" that would not allow third-party stuff and wouldn't play pirated games because of SteamOS — something that's just laughable really.
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Quoting: setzer22Being a happy owner of several GPD devices (as well as recently a Deck), the first thing I thought when I saw the steam deck announcement was: These guys are screwed.
And I can't help but feeling sad about it :/ The've pioneered the whole handheld gaming thing and made that a reality several years before valve came and announced the Deck. Their products *worked* as a steam gaming device way before Valve even thought this was a good idea, they basically did the market research for them. It's sad to see them now being run out of business by the bigger corporation. Valve is selling the deck at a loss because they can afford it, and that will take care of killing off the "competition". But such is the brutal world of business ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyway, I don't like people abusing copyright law to do stupid things. They are obviously in the wrong about this, but I don't think rehashing what everybody agrees with would contribute much to the discussion at this point.
Some people seem to forget that valve has spent a vast amount of time on "Gaming On Linux", the sheer amount of effort behind proton is staggering, the development of proton also helped wine itself get better overall.
GPD had the warning signs years in advanced, they didn't react and try make a more affordable device for the masses. now that valve has done so after waiting until proton was in a mature enough state, GPD is salty.
I don't think valve had intention to push these smaller businesses out but they did have ample amount of time to change their business plan.
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RichardYao Apr 7, 2022
The official response from GDP seems to be their attitude toward Linux in general.
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Quoting: elmapulthey are even more desperate than that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/som87v/gpd_steam_deck_is_worse_than_win_3_it_is_a_closed/
Ohoho man, this is really something to read. Like, this might be the first time I've seen a supposedly professional company say piracy is a "feature", but to call a linux platform "closed" is something else. At best they have a case for SteamOS's immutable file system being technically "closed" outside of flatpaks but that's fixed with a few commands in the terminal, and they're comparing a like, $1,300 handheld to a $400 one.
I can buy that this was an official response though, On a certain video game related anonymous imageboard every steam deck thread has someone shilling GPD and talking crap about the steam deck, I just didn't think it was THIS bad on their end.
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Philadelphus Apr 7, 2022
Quoting: GuestYeah you are deffo missing something. Looks like you're oversimplifying it, It's not as simple as just reporting it, you need to be able to proove it and youtube do a thorough investigation into the claim.Ah, ok, thanks. It's not the same as a DMCA strike then. I wasn't oversimplifying on purpose.
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Quoting: GuestYeah you are deffo missing something. Looks like you're oversimplifying it, It's not as simple as just reporting it, you need to be able to proove it and youtube do a thorough investigation into the claim.Unfortunately, this is not true and YouTube has been under heavy flak for their strongly abusable claim system.
Basically, as soon as someone creates a claim, that claim is valid.
It can be disputed, of course, but guess who has the burden of proof: It's not the claimer (claimant?).
Only once that dispute has been denied by the claimer, can the victim get YouTube involved.
And good luck getting anyone from YouTube involved to take your side in such a case... it takes a LOT of time, effort and ultimately money.
If you get three of those strikes before any of them can be cleared up, your channel is subject to termination.
At the very least, you won't be able to upload more videos before those are cleared up.
If all of this sounds heavily rigged, then yeah, that's because it is.
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Apr 7, 2022
Quoting: spayder26Chinese companies, regardless of their size or reach, usually have a whole different concept of copyright infringement, so zero surprises here.
This reminds me of Xiaomi theme store that is basically filled with the usage of copyrighted content without permission.
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Quoting: crseQuoting: spayder26Chinese companies, regardless of their size or reach, usually have a whole different concept of copyright infringement, so zero surprises here.
This reminds me of Xiaomi theme store that is basically filled with the usage of copyrighted content without permission.
Well, Facebook is basically filled with the usage of copyrighted content without permission, too...
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GPD already got desperate for a long time on thier chinese social account.
They keep attacking Steam deck in thier video on EVERY TITLE.
And video footage is also stole from Youtube.
If there is anyone want to know what GPD post. I'll try to translate them.
https://space.bilibili.com/13258977/video
They keep attacking Steam deck in thier video on EVERY TITLE.
And video footage is also stole from Youtube.
If there is anyone want to know what GPD post. I'll try to translate them.
https://space.bilibili.com/13258977/video
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I understand they got bitter. Their business case is dying, and in my humble opinion there's not much they can do about it. (Maybe if they are quick enough with a big SteamOS device Valve is thinking about?) Of course they have to react more decent on this situation.
... and I understand Liam very good. Being blocked for no good reason feels bad, and having the possibility to react publicly on it and being seen on Google feels good. Been there, done that. :)
... and I understand Liam very good. Being blocked for no good reason feels bad, and having the possibility to react publicly on it and being seen on Google feels good. Been there, done that. :)
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Quoting: pete910Quoting: setzer22Valve is selling the deck at a loss because they can afford it
Can you link to the info/BOM that has that regards costings?
Come on, you know I can't do that. Nobody can, because this is undisclosed private information. If I really had this information (who knows!), it would be a breach of NDA. :)
But my point is that many people seem to agree that Valve is selling the lowest tier at a loss. You may think $400 is a lot if you're measuring against the switch (~30% increase), but fitting an actual PC in this form factor with an x86 architecture, plus all the research work in prototyping and ergonomics, design their custom chip...? And you must take into account that it's their first time doing this (it's not like they had an established process to design handheld consoles like Nintendo).
Moreover, you look at the competition and see no other company out there has been able to sell a similar product at this price point. Are all the steam deck competitors ripping off their customers by charging enormous benefit margins (i.e. selling <$400 hardware for >$1000)? Of course valve has the benefit of having loads of cash and can affort to do mass production, but it doesn't look like they're doing it right now: How many are still waiting on Q2 or Q3 orders? If anything, production looks like it has been quite slow.
All these things add up, and honestly from the outside it seems like a huge risk for them. Like every other Linux enthusiast, I want them to succeed! But honestly they're either *very* optimistic about their potential sales figures or they're selling at a loss and hoping for a revenue increase from people purchasing more steam games. Or maybe they're doing out of love for the linux community, but I'm not that naive.
But anyway, what do I know about business? I'm just a random dude on the internet! If you believe anything I just said, joke's on you.
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