There comes a time when everyone has to sit and think about what they use on their PC, especially if you're on Linux. For me, Arch Linux (via EndeavourOS) just wasn't working out any more and so I've moved to Fedora.
While I was reasonably happy with Arch Linux, it's just not stable enough for me personally. It's a very subjective thing of course, and highly dependent on what hardware you use — along with how often you update. For me, it just messed things up a bit too often, and last night was the final straw.
I updated either that day, or the day before, and just before a livestream was due to start, my SteelSeries headset no longer worked. No matter what I tried, following guide after guide about PipeWire, nothing helped. Just this weird and very quiet electrical static noise whenever I tried piping audio to it. Eventually it worked again by some downgrading, plus random hotplugging and testing it on a Windows machine for a sanity check and it started somewhat working again. My Microphone was another issue, at the same time it decided to be ridiculously quiet for no apparent reason I could see so there were wider problems. I had enough, I had work to do and after hours of hair-pulling — hello from Fedora.
Fedora's KDE Spin
Thankfully, with the likes of Flathub / Flatpak packages and how far along apps like Discover have come along for installing packages and setting things up, there's not a whole lot to learn. It's been a very long time since I used Fedora, and it was one of my first Linux distributions I tried sticking with back when it was "Fedora Core" and wow — it's always surprising to see how far we've come as a platform for doing anything.
Fedora does come with some of its own issues, like NVIDIA drivers being a nuisance to install, which they definitely should improve. If other distributions can do one-click or one-line installs, I'm sure they could do it too. However, it's just another point towards me swapping to AMD when prices settle, or perhaps Intel when Arc properly launches for desktop. I also need to figure out why Dropbox won't load on startup, some little things like that.
Anyway, are you really a Linux nerd if you don't distro-hop at least once a year? Jokes aside, I look forward to seeing why people keep recommending Fedora nowadays as a stable distribution, let's see how long it takes me to break it.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Not that you'd be able to convince a man dying of thirst to take a sip of water with your needlessly confrontational style of "evangelism". It should be obvious by now that you're pushing people away instead of drawing them in.
Quoting: GuestThe article on cstan.io was written on December 1, 2021. Are you going to claim that these kinds of problems are all magically solved in a few months? According to his benchmark, the snap performed 6,175 times slower in MotionMark.
QuoteAs an example application, Firefox 94.x was started in an Ubuntu 21.10 VM with 2 CPUs and 2 GB RAM and tested via BrowserBench.org. VirtualBox 6.1 and an Intel i7-8850H CPU were used on the host side.Translation by DeepL, emphasis by me: Doesn't VirtualBox require a specific driver to allow some kind of hardware acceleration?
Quoting: GuestI played Dota 2 for many years on both windows and Linux, I finally had more than 2000 hours of play after 5 years. When I ran Dota 2 on FreeBSD, I found that on average I had better latency than on the other two platforms. I also noticed that my FPS were +- 10% higher, and I suddenly had no more hiccups when browsing through the menus. I think there may be someone who reminds the Linux community of these observations.
But most important of all, Dota 2 was finally stable. With Linux and windows I often had the problem that the connection to the server was lost, and that I then had to continue playing in a disadvantaged position. In FreeBSD, this has not happened once.
I think it's anything but meaningless info for gaming.
So the thing is we are already facing some compatibility issues by using Linux, and of course striving to improve the situation. Switching to FreeBSD (I only presume) means a whole lot more incompatibility, for not much gain.
Maybe when Linux has 50% market share, FreeBSD could become the contending niche for a change.
That said, it's definitely important to point out where Linux is not as performant as possible. However, comments in GoL are not the right place for them. If you do care, maybe prepare a decent report with logs, put up a blog post or document, then point the right people (like the Linux kernel mailing list) to that.
Otherwise, "BSD worked better for me" is not a convincing sentence by itself.
And yes, I do see the irony.
Quoting: GuestPretty much the exact same situation, isn't it?What? No, it's obviously not the same situation at all. But I do admire the sheer size of your ego, thinking you've earned the right to compare yourself to Socrates for simply choosing to use different software than the rest of us.
Also, you ignored my point. You're doing more harm than good to your cause here, and making it even harder to take BSD (and its advocates) seriously.
Oh and if you're just trolling, have fun I guess. We all have our kinks and I'm not one to judge.
Quoting: GuestSince all the tests have been done in this VM, it seems strange to me that this would be the explanation. Flatpak didn't have the same impact so it was probably just Snap being slow.I leave it up to you to philosophize about what could go wrong if the driver is missing & why the driver could be missing in one case.
To be clear: I don't give a rats ass about snap and I believe there are valid points (closed source etc.) against it (but I'm just not using Ubuntu or Ubuntu based distributions). But the benchmark looks simply wrong. Even if there is something which degrades the graphics performance in the snap (a bug, a wrong configuration), any unbiased person would question these results or at least mention it.
With that being said: I'm out, have fun with your operating system but leave out the FUD from your arguments.
Quoting: GuestThink, for example, of Bill Gates, or the high number of Microsoft executives who were involved in sex traffic.
Wow. That escalated nicely. And all because of the imperfections of snaps... Let's see when Godwin's law can be applied.
Quoting: GuestThe comparison was never about myself and Socrates. But it was about the similarity between you and Socrates' murderers (or simply the average person).The significant difference between me--let's say as the average person (of whom I might not be very representative)--and a murderer is the bit where, at least according to accounts of arguable accuracy, they actually killed the guy because they didn't understand his wisdom and/or disagreed with his politics.
Get over your ego please and realise that the personage of Socrates and the actions of his murderers bear no similarity to the situation here. I have no wish to murder you or anyone else, nor do I object to the way you behave because I lack the intelligence to appreciate the brilliance of your message. You're not getting the response you want because you're acting like a nuisance, not because you're too smart for the rest of us.
Maybe pause for a minute and reflect on your contribution to this thread. Unless you lack all self-awareness, you should be able to see that what you're doing is reminiscent of the stereotypical Windows fanboy jumping into a conversation about a Linux port on a Steam discussion board. Please, either find it in yourself to be constructive or find a better venue for your decidedly unproductive antics.
Quoting: GuestRead that last sentence, again, and extrapolate.Sure, I'll start extrapolating as soon as you stop throwing up bad analogies and completely missing the point.
This feels futile but I'll try one last TL;DR: You will not achieve anything useful by repeatedly hitting us over the head with your preferred non-Linux OS on a site called Gaming on Linux.
Quoting: GuestIt is telling that Ubuntu users do so few benchmarks, that they do not yet have the slightest knowledge whether it is 15%-10%-5% slower or faster than deb packages in the current implementation.
I did a benchmark. But you claimed it to "be fake", because it didn't meet your... well, expectations. But indeed I do few benchmarks, I prefer to work (or game) on my machine. And if "absolute browser speed" would be my thing, I'd probably use Chromium. Even the snap version is faster by quite a margin in these benchmarks than any version of Firefox.
Last edited by Tuxee on 10 April 2022 at 11:21 pm UTC
As a general reminder, distro-wars are not tolerated on GOL. Read the rules, which are linked just slightly above every comment box you type into.
Please stop with the thinly veiled contempt for other people's choices and experiences - define your distro by the things you love about it, and sing about those things to the world. Stop, stop, stop tearing down others.
Quoting: TuxeeQuoting: JustinWoodAs someone very new to all things Linux, I ended up landing on the recently released Nobara Project by Glorious Eggroll. Sounds like it simplifies some of the on-boarding versus traditional Fedora spins. https://nobaraproject.org/
Small edit: That being said, it's not my daily driver. I've got a drive reserved for it to run games that have better performance on Linux, particularly but not limited to Elden Ring currently.
Well, when you are new to Linux I would definitely stick to one of the mainstream distros like Fedora, Mint, Manjaro or Ubuntu. You will inevitably run into "problems" (probably not problems per se, but things that are just... different) and having forums and documentation for your distribution (and not just a "quite similar one") helps tremendously.
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I actually initially started with Manjaro KDE, and while I liked the environment well enough, the performance wasn't what I had been hoping for, and worse, presumably due to some mistake in how I had done things in setting the installer up to split my drive to dual boot Windows and Linux, I ended up having to wipe the entire drive. A learning experience, at least, and after correcting a mistake with how I initially installed Nobara, I've had no issues with it that I didn't have with Manjaro, all of which I was able to work through with the assistance of a more experienced friend, and I find the performance much better, with and without launch arguments for individual games. I do appreciate the input though!
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