AMD has today announced the expansion of the Radeon RX 6000 Series, which includes the AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT, their most powerful card in the family. All while Intel can't even give proper dates for Intel Arc…
No benchmarking or testing from me, as AMD don't provide any samples and they've repeatedly not added me to their press list which I've chased up yet again today.
New model official specifications:
Model |
Compute Units |
GDDR6 |
Game Clock (MHz) |
Boost Clock (MHZ) |
Memory Interface |
Effective Memory Bandwidth w/ AMD Infinity Cache |
TBP |
Price |
Radeon RX 6950 XT |
80 |
16GB |
2100 |
Up to 2310 |
256-bit |
Up to 1793GB/s |
335W |
$1099 |
Radeon RX 6750 XT |
40 |
12GB |
2495 |
Up to 2600 |
192-bit |
Up to 1326GB/s |
250W |
$549 |
Radeon RX 6650 XT |
32 |
8GB |
2410 |
Up to 2635 |
128-bit |
Up to 469GB/s |
180W |
$399 |
At the same time AMD also announced more games that will be getting native support of FSR 2.0 including DEATHLOOP (update expected on May 12th), Asterigos, Delysium, EVE Online, Farming Simulator 22, Forspoken, Grounded, Microsoft Flight Simulator, NiShuiHan, Perfect World Remake, Swordsman Remake, and Unknown 9: Awakening.
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From the press release:
"There are three billion gamers worldwide and counting, and about half play on PCs," said Scott Herkelman, senior vice president and general manager, Graphics Business Unit at AMD. "As gamers grow in numbers, these new Radeon graphics cards will provide next-level gaming experiences and performance. And the incredible efficiencies of AMD RDNA 2 architecture deliver substantially better performance-per-dollar with the new Radeon graphics cards compared to the competition."
Global availability is expected today, May 10th 2022.
Last edited by Mohandevir on 10 May 2022 at 2:15 pm UTC
Unless the "new" cards are under the price that I paid, I don't care.
I't time to wait 5-10 years more unless they put a reasonable price. It's already 2x the price that I think its right for what we get.
Last edited by jordicoma on 10 May 2022 at 2:23 pm UTC
They are still models in stock at Newegg in the US as I type this but go off.
Edit: And Scan.co.uk
Last edited by drlamb on 10 May 2022 at 3:14 pm UTC
Last edited by DerpFox on 10 May 2022 at 4:56 pm UTC
Looks like you can buy the 6750xt and 6950xt on amd.com
!link
Also looks like you can buy THREE steams decks for the exact same price of a single GPU excluding the rest of the entire PC and sit and play couch co-cop with your other half or your friends and family. Sure they are different markets and some people like to sit in a room and play on PC monitor on their own sometimes, or play on the 4k TV with the settings maxed but it's just an interesting comparison.
https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck
I don't know ... I'm not interested anymore. Prices are always given in $ for the USA, and it's always way more expensive when we get them here. And VAT alone can't explain the difference. The cheapest 6950 (for example) I can find is 1500€. As long as prices in Europe keep being so much more expensive than MSPR, I don't think I buy anymore "gaming" component.
That's not far off FOUR steam decks. If you factor in the rest of the PC that's going to be close to 6 Steam Decks lol.
It's going to be interesting when Valve finally release an RDNA3 steam deck with 6/8 cores - 12/16 thread Chiplet APU with some expecting a 200% increase in performance. Even if it is MUCH less like 35%-40% that's going to put it in line with a desktop gtx1050 Ti still. Not to mention other competitors who will want in on the lucrative handheld PC scene now that Steam OS 3.0 is a viable Free to install handheld gaming option for them.
There is definitely a huge market still for Desktop PC's and of course the graphics and general usability might be higher. But the steam deck does shake some things up a bit considering you can use it as a desktop PC for media consumption. And to be fair quite a few people are using MUCH slower ARM devices for this task. I wonder if the Deck will effect mid range gaming laptop sales at all going into the future ?
Last edited by Lofty on 11 May 2022 at 12:28 am UTC
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6800-xt-11304-03-20g/p/N82E16814202405
https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-11306-05-20g/p/N82E16814202408
RDNA3 cards are also coming later in the year.
Last edited by Shmerl on 10 May 2022 at 9:33 pm UTC
Looks like you can buy the 6750xt and 6950xt on amd.com
!link
Also looks like you can buy THREE steams decks for the exact same price of a single GPU excluding the rest of the entire PC and sit and play couch co-cop with your other half or your friends and family. Sure they are different markets and some people like to sit in a room and play on PC monitor on their own sometimes, or play on the 4k TV with the settings maxed but it's just an interesting comparison.
https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck
I don't know ... I'm not interested anymore. Prices are always given in $ for the USA, and it's always way more expensive when we get them here. And VAT alone can't explain the difference. The cheapest 6950 (for example) I can find is 1500€. As long as prices in Europe keep being so much more expensive than MSPR, I don't think I buy anymore "gaming" component.
That's not far off FOUR steam decks. If you factor in the rest of the PC that's going to be close to 6 Steam Decks lol.
It's going to be interesting when Valve finally release an RDNA3 steam deck with 6/8 cores - 12/16 thread Chiplet APU with an some expecting a 200% increase in performance. Even if it is MUCH less like 35%-40% that's going to put it in line with a desktop gtx1050 Ti still. Not to mention other competitors who will want in on the lucrative handheld PC scene now that Steam OS 3.0 is a viable handheld gaming option.
There is definitely a huge market still for Desktop PC's and of course the graphics and general usability might be higher. But the steam deck does shake some things up a bit considering you can use it as a desktop PC for media consumption. And to be fair quite a few people are using MUCH slower ARM devices for this task. I wonder if the Deck will effect mid range gaming laptop sales at all going into the future ?
I can definetly tell you that my main PC will become a backup plan for what's not playable on the Steam Deck (Steam streaming).
I never bought a gaming laptop because it's not that portable; I'v got an MSI workstation and I must bring the charger everywhere or the battery lasts for 45mins and I usually end up leaving it on the same table for this reason, thus defeating the purpose of portability. This and the fact that gaming laptops are on the heavy side... Nope the Steam Deck is a much better fit, imo. But that's just my personnal experience.
I can definetly tell you that my main PC will become a backup plan for what's not playable on the Steam Deck (Steam streaming).
Your not the first person i have heard say that, and by a long shot. I think how people game is changing, perhaps it was due to the isolation felt in lockdown that contributed to people wanting to be around others more idk.. But co-op couch gaming is probably going to be on the rise.
I never bought a gaming laptop because it's not that portable; I'v got an MSI workstation and I must bring the charger everywhere or the battery lasts for 45mins and I usually end up leaving it on the same table for this reason, thus defeating the purpose of portability. This and the fact that gaming laptops are on the heavy side... Nope the Steam Deck is a much better fit, imo. But that's just my personnal experience.
Those ultra beefy Gaming laptops are absurd in general. Let alone they sell them now for over £/$/€ 2000+ and outside of the core specs the screen & audio are often poor not to mention the fan noise and thermal throttling and these days the battery is not even removable to be replaced. Such is life in a throw away society.
Last edited by Lofty on 11 May 2022 at 12:29 am UTC
Also looks like you can buy THREE steams decks for the exact same price of a single GPU excluding the rest of the entire PC and sit and play couch co-cop with your other half or your friends and family. Sure they are different markets and some people like to sit in a room and play on PC monitor on their own sometimes, or play on the 4k TV with the settings maxed but it's just an interesting comparison.
Well, I just got my own Steam Deck before ordering this new GPU… for me that’s two complementary markets.
That's not far off FOUR steam decks. If you factor in the rest of the PC that's going to be close to 6 Steam Decks lol.
Personally the rest of my PC is from 2019 and I don’t plan to change it before five another years now that I’ll got a new GPU (changing the GPU was planned from the start, mainly because it was before RDNA, so AMD GPU weren’t very powerful at this time, but Nvidia was out of question because of Linux compatibility and price).
It's going to be interesting when Valve finally release an RDNA3 steam deck with 6/8 cores - 12/16 thread Chiplet APU with an some expecting a 200% increase in performance. Even if it is MUCH less like 35%-40% that's going to put it in line with a desktop gtx1050 Ti still. Not to mention other competitors who will want in on the lucrative handheld PC scene now that Steam OS 3.0 is a viable handheld gaming option.
It doesn’s seem planned, the Deck is conceived to be good enough for years from what I read. And I understand, the market isn’t moving that fast (if you look really close, you’ll see that a 2017 RX 580 is still good enough for 1080p gaming for a whole bunch of people). Even more when you add the battery in the equation.
There is definitely a huge market still for Desktop PC's and of course the graphics and general usability might be higher. But the steam deck does shake some things up a bit considering you can use it as a desktop PC for media consumption. And to be fair quite a few people are using MUCH slower ARM devices for this task. I wonder if the Deck will effect mid range gaming laptop sales at all going into the future ?
We’ll see. I don’t expect the Deck to change any existing market, honestly. Even gaming laptop still have interest.
I can definetly tell you that my main PC will become a backup plan for what's not playable on the Steam Deck (Steam streaming).
I never bought a gaming laptop because it's not that portable; I'v got an MSI workstation and I must bring the charger everywhere or the battery lasts for 45mins and I usually end up leaving it on the same table for this reason, thus defeating the purpose of portability. This and the fact that gaming laptops are on the heavy side... Nope the Steam Deck is a much better fit, imo. But that's just my personnal experience.
That’s going to be the other way around for me: the Deck will be a backup plan for when I can’t bring my main PC. The PC is way more practical (screen size, performance, posture, peripherals…) and comfortable for long gaming session. But the Deck is very portable, and have sufficient performances.
I bought it mainly for performance (at that price on top of that! Even the most expensive is a good deal compared to a laptop at the same price), because my current laptop have a big lack of performance.
A gaming laptop would be perfect for my main use case, but three times more expensive, and I wouldn't use it often enough to make it worthwhile.
The battery is a bonus, maybe I’ll start to play in new situations because of that. So it will probably be even more profitable.
Last edited by Breizh on 11 May 2022 at 12:30 am UTC
It doesn’s seem planned, the Deck is conceived to be good enough for years from what I read. And I understand, the market isn’t moving that fast (if you look really close, you’ll see that a 2017 RX 580 is still good enough for 1080p gaming for a whole bunch of people). Even more when you add the battery in the equation.
sure its too early with the deck just releasing. But hopefully valve won't sell the same hardware for the next 5 years. If they do a refresh to address things like an improved fan, better battery, better screen, haptic triggers like the PS5 etc.. then it might come in a refreshed specs package too, just to be clear not to replace the Steam Deck but as an additional tier model such as the Steam Deck Pro with higher specs
Last edited by Lofty on 11 May 2022 at 12:43 am UTC
Are these using 6nm or some other process which makes them easier to make over the original 7nm cards? Are these the relaunch of RDNA2 that has been rumoured?
They use the same chips, but overclocked so you get worse performance/watt in addition to the anyhow worse performace/euro.
Another paper release. I couldn't be less excited :(
They are still stock at some of uk's pc component stores, which makes me hope that people aren't rushing out to buy these and any other overpriced GPU... They need to get real and bring the prices down.
Are these using 6nm or some other process which makes them easier to make over the original 7nm cards? Are these the relaunch of RDNA2 that has been rumoured?
Yeah they're just a relaunch of RDNA2 with faster VRAM and slightly overclocked. I think it's just a more advanced 7nm, they probably have better binned chips or something for this release. The 6nm and 5nm process is being saved for RDNA3.
Funny that those cards I was originally looking at are now going for $100-$200 cheaper than the card I ended up getting. No point getting them now! The RX 590 may be a Polaris GDDR5 card, but it's played everything I want to play no problem. Getting an RDNA2 card is a waste of my money now, particularly with my Steam Deck coming up sometime in the remaining days of Q2.
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