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Ok, now that I've got everything in both bundles, I should probably figure out how to get "Bottles" working.

A great initiative !

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Unfortunately this is not something that can be dealt with by donating a little money while sitting at your computer. This is something where people have to go outside an make their voices heard and their numbers seen. From the outside It is sad to see the US so dug in on it's internal frontlines in recent years that few seem to be able to see what is fair or just anymore, let alone act upon it. I hope one day you will be able to break out of this two sided power struggle and find your heart again to work towards a better future for everyone.

With the decision, Democracy in the USA is shown to be stepping in the correct direction! Removing the choice from the people is something governments, at a national level, have done for thousands (?) of years. Now the choice of forging our own future on this matter has been rightfully returned to individual states where the citizens get to decide for themselves how they wish to be governed. This bundle SHOULD be raising money promoting the freedom to choose our own paths, instead of going to organizations/efforts that wish to strip away the rights of the people to Democratically vote for their own rulers who represent THEM.

If a bundle comes along that supports the rights of citizens to make their voices heard in the democratically way our founders intended, then it will be a bundle worth supporting.

Quoting: TherinSWith the decision, Democracy in the USA is shown to be stepping in the correct direction! Removing the choice from the people is something governments, at a national level, have done for thousands (?) of years. Now the choice of forging our own future on this matter has been rightfully returned to individual states where the citizens get to decide for themselves how they wish to be governed. This bundle SHOULD be raising money promoting the freedom to choose our own paths, instead of going to organizations/efforts that wish to strip away the rights of the people to Democratically vote for their own rulers who represent THEM.

If a bundle comes along that supports the rights of citizens to make their voices heard in the democratically way our founders intended, then it will be a bundle worth supporting.

That's a lot of clever dancing to get around the basic fact that the decision strips actual choice and rights away from a lot of actual people. I'll admit I have been wondering how a bunch of people who normally are all about yelling "Freeeedoooommm!" manage to square this with taking people's freedom away. So the idea is it's OK to take real people's rights away as long as in the process you give rights to a . . . legal entity. Because that's whose rights are really important, and it's much better for this slightly smaller legal entity to have them than that somewhat larger one. Got it.


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Quoting: TherinSWith the decision, Democracy in the USA is shown to be stepping in the correct direction! Removing the choice from the people is something governments, at a national level, have done for thousands (?) of years. Now the choice of forging our own future on this matter has been rightfully returned to individual states

... ' governments.

(responding to purple).

You've always seemed like a voice of reason so I'll be kind to you in my response. It seems like many people are not aware of how the Colonies (er, US Constitution) determines what rights the citizenry has. The Constitution is a document detailing the LIMITS of the federal government. Everything not specifically enumerated in the Constitution (and its amendments) is the right of the individual States to decide. The overturned decision is not and was never defined in the founding documents or subsequent articles, and until 1973 was left to individual states (the voting citizens) to decide for themselves how they wish to address the subject matter and that right has now been restored.

How other way than to return the power to the people could Democracy be defined?

If complaints of "Freedom" and "our Democracy is being destroyed" are what you are referring to, then perhaps a good long think about what freedom looks like is necessary.


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Quoting: TherinS(responding to purple).

The overturned decision is not and was never defined in the founding documents or subsequent articles, and until 1973 was left to individual states (the voting citizens) to decide for themselves how they wish to address the subject matter and that right has now been restored.

The point of the US Constitution was to be a flexible framework. The Founders knew that there would be things that they hadn't dreamed of that would need such flexibility. The idea that because something wasn't enumerated in the beginning that it can't possibly be within the domain of the federal government is a false one.

QuoteHow other way than to return the power to the people could Democracy be defined?

If complaints of "Freedom" and "our Democracy is being destroyed" are what you are referring to, then perhaps a good long think about what freedom looks like is necessary.

The idea that it is better to return certain things to the states to decide has a history. We fought a civil war over it. One side won that debate through a lot of bloodshed.

And yet the rhetoric keeps getting repeated, and it sounds so innocent and earnestly about freedom when in fact it is often double-speak for driving the opposite outcome.

In a country that claims to value freedom as a whole, it makes no sense to say "And we'll turn it to the states to let the people decide if YOU get to have the same freedoms." We, in fact, tried that, and it turned out to be a terrible idea.