A short but sweet announcement was sent out by AMD today, as they've now set a date for when they will fully reveal AMD Radeon RDNA 3, their next-gen GPU architecture. Something we had a very brief teaser of when they announced Zen 4.
Their "together we advance_gaming" event will be livestreamed on November 3rd at 1PM PDT / 8PM UTC. As the press released noted:
AMD (NASDAQ: AMD) today announced “together we advance_gaming,” a livestream event to unveil the next generation of AMD Radeon™ graphics. AMD executives will provide details on the new high-performance, energy-efficient AMD RDNA™ 3 architecture that will deliver new levels of performance, efficiency and functionality to gamers and content creators.
The show premieres at 1:00 p.m. PDT on Thursday, November 3, on the AMD YouTube channel. A replay can be accessed a few hours after the conclusion of the event at AMD.com/Radeon.
What are you really hoping for from AMD RDNA 3?
For me: I'm hoping for power requirements that aren't completely ridiculous (hi NVIDIA), along with cards that don't just serve the top-end. It's not much to ask really is it?
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PublicNuisance Oct 20, 2022
I am hoping for open source firmware to match the drivers; no AMD PSP and no Pluton. With the way hardware is going these days I will probably be unlucky enough to get none of my wishes.
Last edited by PublicNuisance on 20 October 2022 at 1:44 pm UTC
Last edited by PublicNuisance on 20 October 2022 at 1:44 pm UTC
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Steam Deck 2 or Steam Deck Lite powered by RDNA 3, baby!
50% performance increase per watt over RDNA 2 is excellent, and basically means that even if they stick to a 40 WH battery, it should get significantly better battery life, while using the same settings.
50% performance increase per watt over RDNA 2 is excellent, and basically means that even if they stick to a 40 WH battery, it should get significantly better battery life, while using the same settings.
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SilverCode Oct 20, 2022
I think that them putting "energy-efficient" in their announcement is a poke at the new nvidia cards. I'm just hoping they also poke fun at nvidia's price and don't try gouge the consumers.
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I think that them putting "energy-efficient" in their announcement is a poke at the new nvidia cards. I'm just hoping they also poke fun at nvidia's price and don't try gouge the consumers.
Honestly, if they can do that, it's a huge win for them. Even if they have to shave profit a bit, they'll sell so many more GPUs. If they play their cards right, one day a mid-range AMD card will take the place of the GTX 1060 at the top of Steam's most-frequently-used GPU list.
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Let's hope for a solar powered GPU with negative TDP and an instruction set that devalues cryptocurrency if used for mining.
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Let's hope for a solar powered GPU with negative TDP and an instruction set that devalues cryptocurrency if used for mining.These days I don't think you need a special instruction set for that--it just happens.
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I hope radv will finally get ray tracing in shape. So far it's missing some features even for RDNA 2.
These cards should have hardware AV1 encoder.
These cards should have hardware AV1 encoder.
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I am hoping for open source firmware to match the drivers; no AMD PSP and no Pluton. With the way hardware is going these days I will probably be unlucky enough to get none of my wishes.
Neither of PSP or Pluton exists on GPU:s, they are both CPU technologies. Both are also highly exaggerated by the conspiracy crowd. E.g if Microsoft wants to spy on their users they don't need to implement a whole new chip (Pluton) to do that when all of their users happily runs millions of lines of code all of which Microsoft controls to 100%.
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PublicNuisance Oct 21, 2022
I am hoping for open source firmware to match the drivers; no AMD PSP and no Pluton. With the way hardware is going these days I will probably be unlucky enough to get none of my wishes.
Neither of PSP or Pluton exists on GPU:s, they are both CPU technologies. Both are also highly exaggerated by the conspiracy crowd. E.g if Microsoft wants to spy on their users they don't need to implement a whole new chip (Pluton) to do that when all of their users happily runs millions of lines of code all of which Microsoft controls to 100%.
Pluton didn't exist on their CPUs either until they put it on there, no reason to suspect they won't continue to infest other product lines with it. As for PSP it is on GPUs starting with Vega and newer from what I have gathered.
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd-platform-security-processor-psp
"The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on the AMD CPUs whose architecture is Late Family 16h (Puma), Zen 17h or later (and also on the AMD GPUs which are GCN 5th gen (Vega) or later)."
As for whether they are exxaggerated or not that is subjective and not relevant to my wishes above. I don't want more closed source black boxes on my hardware. I can't think of any good reason for anybody to want them. People don't want them, they tolerate them, there's a difference.
Last edited by PublicNuisance on 21 October 2022 at 2:32 pm UTC
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I am hoping for open source firmware to match the drivers; no AMD PSP and no Pluton. With the way hardware is going these days I will probably be unlucky enough to get none of my wishes.
Neither of PSP or Pluton exists on GPU:s, they are both CPU technologies. Both are also highly exaggerated by the conspiracy crowd. E.g if Microsoft wants to spy on their users they don't need to implement a whole new chip (Pluton) to do that when all of their users happily runs millions of lines of code all of which Microsoft controls to 100%.
Pluton didn't exist on their CPUs either until they put it on there, no reason to suspect they won't continue to infest other product lines with it. As for PSP it is on GPUs starting with Vega and newer from what I have gathered.
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd-platform-security-processor-psp
"The Platform Security Processor (PSP) is built in on the AMD CPUs whose architecture is Late Family 16h (Puma), Zen 17h or later (and also on the AMD GPUs which are GCN 5th gen (Vega) or later)."
As for whether they are exxaggerated or not that is subjective and not relevant to my wishes above. I don't want more closed source black boxes on my hardware. I can't think of any good reason for anybody to want them. People don't want them, they tolerate them, there's a difference.
That link is wrong and I have no idea where they got that info from, PSP is a CPU feature. Perhaps they are confusing it with the CPU:S that contain a low performance GPU aka the APU:s.
There is no role on the GPU that a Pluton or PSP chip can fill, by design they have both to be on the CPU (they need to be in the pre-boot environment).
Agreed that open firmwares for both would be much better, not only for "big brother" reasons but also because we all know just how badly these things are coded so they most likely contain tons of security holes.
They are not there to spy on people though, that is the conspiracy that have made so many people constantly asking if they are included or not so that is why I falsely assumed you asking the same, sorry about that.
edit: misread what you wrote about pluton so changed that part.
Last edited by F.Ultra on 21 October 2022 at 5:16 pm UTC
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One of the blockers for open firmwmare for GPUs is the DRM garbage that's being pushed by media industry. I.e. all that HDCP. In order to have an open firmware, AMD will need to support two versions, one without DRM and one with DRM. And bean counters don't see a point in such extra expense.
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With Nvidia the situation is even worse, because their blob firmware now is replacing a lot of functionality of the kernel driver. I've read somewhere firmware itself is like 40 MB or something. It's crazy.
So don't buy their sudden change of heart in the sense of "we now have an open kernel module". May be they do, but they also ballooned their firmware blob to be the black box driver controlling the GPU, basically moving stuff out of the kernel into the firmware blob. So they just don't care much about the kernel part now to make it open, their main part still remains a blob.
See: https://lwn.net/Articles/910343/
So AMD is way better in this regard despite some blob being present.
Last edited by Shmerl on 21 October 2022 at 5:31 pm UTC
So don't buy their sudden change of heart in the sense of "we now have an open kernel module". May be they do, but they also ballooned their firmware blob to be the black box driver controlling the GPU, basically moving stuff out of the kernel into the firmware blob. So they just don't care much about the kernel part now to make it open, their main part still remains a blob.
See: https://lwn.net/Articles/910343/
So AMD is way better in this regard despite some blob being present.
Last edited by Shmerl on 21 October 2022 at 5:31 pm UTC
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I just hope for a sub 200 euro GPU. T___T
Nobody thinks about the poorest gamers. It is not like we are not legion. ^__^;
Nobody thinks about the poorest gamers. It is not like we are not legion. ^__^;
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