Jason Ekstrand of Collabora just announced NVK, a brand new open source Mesa Vulkan driver for NVIDIA GPUs. No you're not dreaming but it's also not from NVIDIA directly — as usual the open source community is doing the work.
It's still early-ish days for NVK but what they've been able to do with it so far sounds reasonably promising. The current nouveau drivers for NVIDIA in Mesa aren't going to be removed but they don't exactly work well, and a lot of it was done coding in the dark with reverse engineering.
Things have come a long way though, with NVIDIA gradually releasing more documentation and recently their open source Linux GPU kernel modules.
NVK itself was written "almost entirely from scratch using the new official headers from NVIDIA" over the last several months targeting Turing+. Ekstrand has some pretty high goals for it, like wanting it to become "the new reference Vulkan driver within Mesa" and so they're "building NVK with all the best practices we've developed for Vulkan drivers over the last 7.5 years and trying to keep the code-base clean and well-organized".
This is a serious effort to get a good open source driver for NVIDIA GPUs and that sounds awesome. Eventually it could become "what RADV is to AMD hardware" but there's a lot of work to get there.
As for OpenGL support, they might even end up using the Zink driver (an OpenGL implementation on top of Vulkan), instead of writing a whole new OpenGL driver to go along with it. Zink has come a long way too so it could be a pretty good plan.
See the blog post for all the info.
Will be a long shot though, but we knew after nvidia open sourced it we're talking years not month for a proper open source driver. Depends on the backing, if there are companies backing the devs fulltime, that will be a way faster journey (Valve? RedHat?)
I still hope long run Nvidia goes the way of AMD and contributes / invests there too. But they took a long time even opening up a bit (most work seems still behind locked doors, must be a documentation and organizational hell keeping the issues and request and internal development synced)
It's a start, let's see what time brings. I appreciate the effort too.
Nouveau have done a good job actually getting something working, and we should all appreciate that. But that game has changed.
Last edited by STiAT on 4 October 2022 at 10:52 pm UTC
Quoting: hummer010Turing+ ... this should be pretty mature by the time I can afford a supported GPU!
But it still includes Turing right? I mean, what will they do, do not support a Geforce GT1080? because that's Turing.
However, I do think this is good news.
Quoting: CyborgZetaI dislike NVIDIA, and will never buy any of their GPUs.
Me too, not only did I hate the hassles (I always build latest kernels from kernel.org) and getting in over my head and having to go try to find third party patches, but every single Nvidia card I've ever bought died sooner than it should have. (even before the following I had an expensive GEForce 6600 GT die just out of warranty)
I remember thinking Charlie Demerjian (writing for The Inquirer at the time) was full of crap, until I started to see the trend for myself both on customer systems and personally. I believed Nvidia over anything that came out of the rectum of The Inquirer (sorry Charlie). It took longer on discrete GPUs with cooling fans etc. but the chipsets were all affected. To make a long story short, the GPUs were experiencing cracks between the connector "bumps" on the chips and the underlying substrate.
I had an expensive dual GPU Nvidia card that was nothing but trouble in games, and it died in less than a year (and BFG went out of business so I burned for it). So I put in another good Nvidia card that spent most of its life in the closet (I was unsatisfied and bought a new one a few months later). I decided it was time for a new build, so I sold it in that PC in good faith, and didn't it fail in about 3 months. The guy wasn't even a gamer. I was pissed off, but I bought him an entry level video card (Radeon 5450 or something like that... $60) out of my pocket and installed it for free. He didn't know the difference with his usage.
That soured me on Nvidia forever. I don't buy anything that has any of their hardware in it, for anyone.
I'm uglier than Linus, so I won't send you a pic of me flipping them the bird :-)
Last edited by Grogan on 5 October 2022 at 7:42 pm UTC
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