ASUS stick an OLED display into a controller, Dell want to reinvent it

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Wait, lemme grab my controller...

Steam controller 2 enters the arena... makes all other controllers for PC obsolete.


(so long as it has proper dual shock vibration and not the terrible fly trapped in a plastic thimble haptic they used as a costs cutting excuse on the first gen model)


Last edited by Lofty on 6 January 2023 at 5:10 pm UTC

(programmable in Armoury Crate)

Makes me think of loot boxes. Well done ASUS.

so long as it has proper dual shock vibration

Integrate a Fein Multimaster for vibration purposes. From start to numb hands in 5 minutes.

Fein Multimaster for vibration purposes.

That sounds too sexy.. im not searching for it just incase

Not what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

That sounds too sexy.. im not searching for it just incase

It isn't. It's a multi use tool that only works well for removing grout between tiles. Everything else starts to vibrate so that it doesn't do anything.

The thing was invented as a saw to cut casts in a hospital without a chance to hurt anyone. You definitely cannot cut skin with it.

That sounds too sexy.. im not searching for it just incase

It isn't. It's a multi use tool that only works well for removing grout between tiles. Everything else starts to vibrate so that it doesn't do anything.

The thing was invented as a saw to cut casts in a hospital without a chance to hurt anyone. You definitely cannot cut skin with it.

Now im slightly disappointed that it isn't sexy

Not what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.


Last edited by Lofty on 6 January 2023 at 6:01 pm UTC

I'm still amazed those high price controllers still use potentiometer sticks.
After trying out the Gulikit Kingkong, hall effect sticks just are on a whole other level and there is no excuse to not use them on anything that costs more than 30 or 40 bucks. If only the Kingkongs would work better on linux :/


Last edited by Termy on 6 January 2023 at 6:03 pm UTC

I'm still amazed those high price controllers still use potentiometer sticks.
After trying out the Gulikit Kingkong, hall effect sticks just are on a whole other level and there is no excuse to not use them on anything that costs more than 30 or 40 bucks. If only the Kingkongs would work better on linux :/

this is like the dreamcast controller that use magnets to "work forever without drift" ?

i wonder if you can use the magnets to make the stick harder or softer to move without wearing it out, it would be a cool haptic feedback feature.

Not what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.

I actually had to double-check which gamepad you're writing about, because it's so weird how much our experience differs. The Pro 2 has been hands down the best controller I've ever owned. The buttons are responsive and quiet. The triggers aren't very stiff but they provide just the right amount of resistance for fine control. The D-pad isn't too bad either. And compatibility in X-input mode (with Steam Input and outside of steam) has been excellent. Maybe we don't play the same games?

The paddles on the bottom don't work, that's true. But you can only set them to double as face buttons even on Windows apparently. Doesn't sound very useful. And about rumble, I'll take your word for that one. I've never seen the point of controller vibration so I always disable it.

Not what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.

I actually had to double-check which gamepad you're writing about, because it's so weird how much our experience differs. The Pro 2 has been hands down the best controller I've ever owned. The buttons are responsive and quiet. The triggers aren't very stiff but they provide just the right amount of resistance for fine control. The D-pad isn't too bad either. And compatibility in X-input mode (with Steam Input and outside of steam) has been excellent. Maybe we don't play the same games?

The paddles on the bottom don't work, that's true. But you can only set them to double as face buttons even on Windows apparently. Doesn't sound very useful. And about rumble, I'll take your word for that one. I've never seen the point of controller vibration so I always disable it.

The bottom paddles are there so you don't need to leave the right analog stick to press a face button. They work great in FPS games. I have them on the Steam Controller, BTW.

Want!

Not what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.

Looks like you got a lemon, since this is the first time I see someone saying those things about the Pro 2. Or maybe you had a very high standard for noise? In my collection, the Xbox360 is the quietest. Is this the one you had before?

Personally, I like light triggers, since this is the norm nowadays and I cannot go back for the very hard ones in the XBox 360 and Logitech F710.

Compatibility of gamepads nowadays is a hit or miss unfortunately, since some games do not implement Steam Input nor SDL2. Of all my controllers, only the XB360 and F710 had near perfect compatibility. The Dualshock4, Xbone and Steam Controller all had some (or multiple) games that refuse to recognize them.

As for the M30, while I do like the Saturn gamepad format (I also have one and the Dreamcast one with a adapter!), I do prefer the Nintendo D-pad more.

So in the end I think I will wait. I have too much gamepads already and the next one must check all the right points, otherwise I will stick with what I already have.

F710

Really? I've had to jump through a lot of hoops to get Lego Batman (without Steam) to recognize my wired Logitech gamepad.

Edit: To clarify: I've always assumed that there is no gamepad that works in every game.


Last edited by Klaas on 6 January 2023 at 7:29 pm UTC

F710

Really? I've had to jump through a lot of hoops to get Lego Batman (without Steam) to recognize my wired Logitech gamepad.

Edit: To clarify: I've always assumed that there is no gamepad that works in every game.

I also said "nearly perfect" :-)

So you found another game to stain the reputation of the Logitech gamepads. I had encountered only one game in my 200+ library that didn't recognized it, but worked fine with the XB360.

Also, the only game that didn't worked with the XB360 (wired), the undisputed champion of compatibility, is Grow Home, but it had a crocked Linux port anyway. Only way to make a gamepad work with it was to use Steam Input to send keyboard presses to it.

Concept Nyx system which is sort-of like a shared server that does everything for multiple people across different screens.

Wait, have they just "invented" X11?

Not what I am looking for right now. Since I'm riding the indie wave, what I need is a decent D-Pad. And those that are under the analog simply wont do, no matter how good the actual pad is. Location location location. I have a Dual Shock 4, but the D-pad is unbearable for those of us that had tasted Nintendo's finest.

I was about to get a 8bitdo Pro 2, but after their recent releases, I have the gut feeling a "Pro 3" is in the works. So for now I'm using a original N64 controller with a USB adapter. Those things have great D-Pads that nobody used back then, so mine is like new, despite having been manufactured 25 years ago.

My advice is to not get the pro 2, i have this and the buttons stick and creak. the triggers are too easy to press (like almost no resistance) the dpad is meh. not only that it has not been very compatible for me at all even on xinput mode, some proton games will not work even when its supposed to be set as an xbox controller. Oddly only the switch emulation works well in these cases but then the buttons are mapped incorrectly. Ohh and i cannot get anything to recognise the back under side paddle buttons.. and .. yes there is more .. the rumble barely works on most games if at all. If you want a controller like an xbox controller get an xbox controller.

However its not all bad for 8bitdo if your after a retro/indie game wave where you only need a really good d-pad and a decent set of face buttons (no analogue or rumble) then the M30 model (that looks like a megadrive controller) is much better built and the d-pad is excellent.

I actually had to double-check which gamepad you're writing about, because it's so weird how much our experience differs. The Pro 2 has been hands down the best controller I've ever owned. The buttons are responsive and quiet. The triggers aren't very stiff but they provide just the right amount of resistance for fine control. The D-pad isn't too bad either. And compatibility in X-input mode (with Steam Input and outside of steam) has been excellent. Maybe we don't play the same games?

The paddles on the bottom don't work, that's true. But you can only set them to double as face buttons even on Windows apparently. Doesn't sound very useful. And about rumble, I'll take your word for that one. I've never seen the point of controller vibration so I always disable it.

so most of my points still stand. But the first ones might be that i have a poor quality unit, but that doesn't say much for quality control. there are a few threads out there about the varying quality of the pro 2, and 8bitdo hardware in general.

So Asus decided to reinvent the controller screen that Dreamcast already tried with very low success? Even the Wii U game pad was a gimmick with very few real useful applications like the Super Mario Maker builder.

The only time that I see dual screen working for me is when they are so close next to each other that you don't need to stop looking at one to use the other, being that a multimonitor setup in PC or something like the DS/3DS where you can use both screens at the same time without diverting your attention from the other.

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Looks like you got a lemon, since this is the first time I see someone saying those things about the Pro 2.

it probably is a lemon, but the quality control is not as high as the OG xbox controller imo. But then again it is cheaper. search for 'sticky buttons' on 8bitdo controllers. its the rubber that seems to be getting stuck or worn easily. They may of fixed this for the pro 3 though.

Or maybe you had a very high standard for noise? In my collection, the Xbox360 is the quietest. Is this the one you had before?

yes.

Personally, I like light triggers, since this is the norm nowadays and I cannot go back for the very hard ones in the XBox 360 and Logitech F710.

for racing games i love the OG PS3 triggers they feel more like a accelerator pedal. I suppose for fast FPS ( but why use a controller for that) the pro 2 is good for that instant response and so yea i could see how a xbox or ps3 would be too hard.
it's user preference.

Compatibility of gamepads nowadays is a hit or miss unfortunately, since some games do not implement Steam Input nor SDL2. Of all my controllers, only the XB360 and F710 had near perfect compatibility. The Dualshock4, Xbone and Steam Controller all had some (or multiple) games that refuse to recognize them.

yup. it still seems that the OG xbox controller is the best for compatibility. but i have had other replica xbox (original) controllers that were more compatible than the pro 2.

As for the M30, while I do like the Saturn gamepad format (I also have one and the Dreamcast one with a adapter!), I do prefer the Nintendo D-pad more. So in the end I think I will wait. I have too much gamepads already and the next one must check all the right points, otherwise I will stick with what I already have.

A good game pad is like gold dust. I always used to think they were all just about the same, but no its about getting a good one and then the one you get has to be made properly and supported on your platform of choice. why is everything so complicated these days (shouts at cloud like a grumpy old man)