Plasma 5.27 Beta live with Flatpak settings, multi-monitor upgrade, SteamOS updater

It seems that Valve is really invested in KDE, judging by all the Steam Deck-related work going into it. This is great, except that as GNOME fanboy user I wish they made it easier to use another desktop environment on Steam Deck.

The pace of KDE is really impressive again and again ^^
I agree that multi-monitor improvements are very welcomed - all in all it works well here, but when i have to switch my primary monitor to my tv because some game doesn't want to go on anything but the primary, i have to re-sort my panels afterwards (which, to be fair, is rather quick nowadays thanks to the 'manage desktops and panels' addition from a few releases back) - so i'm curious if that is fixed then :D
And integrating the flatseal-functionality is nice for sure.

What i'm really looking forward to with 5.27 is the 'semi-tiling' additions, they sound great in theory at least ^^

This time KDE stole from Microsoft, the new tiling feature is probably inspired by Win11's corresponding feature. (was it called snapping?) But they didn't just copy pasta but slightly improved it.

I hope this gets past beta asap

KDE is my preferred DE as well, the one I use on both my main "Big Rig" gaming PC and my main laptop, as well, of course, as the Steam Deck. So I'm always excited to see it continuing to improve and evolve. As for my experience docking the deck in Desktop mode, I have lost the main panel once or twice, so I'll look forward to not having to deal with that anymore! :-)

One question: didn't I hear that Plasma 5.26 added support for animated wallpapers? That's a feature that I will definitely plan to start using once I know I have access to it! :-)

Lastly, a p.s.: my two Linux devices that are NOT using KDE are both using Xfce instead, because there were available skins to make them look nearly identical to Windows 95 and macOS9 respectively that I decided to go for on my two backup laptops running Manjaro and Fedora respectively. Though I don't really use Mac or Windows anymore, having come up on a mix of the two, the nostalgic in me will always have a soft spot for them, and as such, I love having the option to run modern Linux OSes in a retro Mac / Windows aesthetic! :-)


Last edited by NerdNoiseRadio on 2 February 2023 at 1:32 am UTC

Quoting: mr-victoryThis time KDE stole from Microsoft, the new tiling feature is probably inspired by Win11's corresponding feature. (was it called snapping?) But they didn't just copy pasta but slightly improved it.

Don't think so, KDE/Plasma had snapping of windows for a decade. I can't remember if 3 did, but 4 definitely did.
This is probably one of the big reasons I ended up setting onto KDE/Plasma.
This change adds the ability to customize the zones, and change between presets, which makes it much more useful for, e.g. ultra-wide monitors.

Wonder if I can set up zones on a per-monitor basis? Then you could treat tall/wide monitors differently in one session...

Quoting: mr-victoryThis time KDE stole from Microsoft, the new tiling feature is probably inspired by Win11's corresponding feature.

Fancyzones or something like that? Yeah that is kinda similar - but i guess once every ten years MS also has a decent idea that indeed is FOR the user for a change ;)

Quoting: NerdNoiseRadioOne question: didn't I hear that Plasma 5.26 added support for animated wallpapers? That's a feature that I will definitely plan to start using once I know I have access to it! :-)

I don't have your answer, but it is crazy to me that this is not a feature in 2023 when I remember having animated backgrounds in the 90's with xscreensaver -root option... I hate when we lose features.

Quoting: inlinuxdudexscreensaver -root

Don't forget mplayer -rootwin

Quoting: NerdNoiseRadioOne question: didn't I hear that Plasma 5.26 added support for animated wallpapers? That's a feature that I will definitely plan to start using once I know I have access to it! :-)

Yes, but only for Wayland as it was disabled in Xorg due to a memory leak in an underlying library that was used to achieve it. It supports both avif and heif formats for the animated wallpapers, and all you have to do is add them to your wallpapers folder and select them as if they are any other wallpaper.

As a very happy Plasma user....... Im always excited to see whats in the new versions....... So far I have not been disappointed.......

I am most excited about the improved multi monitor support....... The empty desktop.... thing..... bug?....... Is quite annoying...... If they can solve that I would be a very happy camper......

Glad to see the Flatpak permission settings. The Linux desktop needs some serious security modernization work, and this is a step in the right direction.

Multi-monitor has been the achilles heel of using Plasma last year. As someone who has multiple monitors with 3-5 workspace/desktops at a time, kwin/Plasma has often crashed requiring me to run the restart-plasma script (kill/restart kwin & plasma) I've binded to a shortcut. More improvement on that is welcomed.

Not requiring Flatseal anymore is nice. That and the new welcome app seems like one of the Deck-driven improvement that benefits everyone that uses KDE as well.

Having followed Nate's Pointiest Stick blog, it's been awesome seeing improvements to Plasma every week and that improvement is now finally landing. Here's to a good last hurrah for Plasma 5.

Quoting: mr-victoryThis time KDE stole from Microsoft, the new tiling feature is probably inspired by Win11's corresponding feature. (was it called snapping?) But they didn't just copy pasta but slightly improved it.

Regarding tiling, the only thing that KDE 'stole' from Microsoft is the Snap Layouts that appears when you however Maximize button -- in the form of someone making Exquisite, which is similar to that Snap Layouts feature.

Snap Layouts I've found to be rather annoying, but I do use it sometimes so I keep it on despite how bothersome it is sometimes (I've disabled the screen-top's Snap Layout UI tho, too annoying considering I put my taskbar at top).

Quoting: Izaic

Quoting: NerdNoiseRadioOne question: didn't I hear that Plasma 5.26 added support for animated wallpapers? That's a feature that I will definitely plan to start using once I know I have access to it! :-)

Yes, but only for Wayland as it was disabled in Xorg due to a memory leak in an underlying library that was used to achieve it. It supports both avif and heif formats for the animated wallpapers, and all you have to do is add them to your wallpapers folder and select them as if they are any other wallpaper.

Hmm, why not allow a wayland client to draw on the background plane? Probably with wlr-layer-shell or something similar.

The Flatpak permissions are pretty handy, since it means you won't need to install a separate program (Flatseal). Also, if you care about consistency, not having to use Flatseal means not having a GTK program on a Qt DE.

If Plasma 5.27 makes it into Kubuntu 23.04, I may consider upgrading to an interim release. For now, I'm staying on 22.04.

Upgraded to the beta yesterday and it's all smooth sailing. I have three screens so the multi-monitor improvements are super nice to have

"better experience with USB-C based docks"
Yes please, make it so it just wakes up and stays up... and not wake up and sleep until the Task menu is minimized.

Thank you, KDE developers!

Quoting: ridgeUpgraded to the beta yesterday and it's all smooth sailing. I have three screens so the multi-monitor improvements are super nice to have

By the way, how did you install the beta on Arch? AUR? I don't see version 5.27 even in the KDE-Unstable repo.

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Quoting: ridgeeBy the way, how did you install the beta on Arch? AUR? I don't see version 5.27 even in the KDE-Unstable repo.

It's in KDE-Unstable, but Plasma beta versions use "X.X.90" versioning, so 5.27 beta is 5.26.90, and will get bumped to 5.27 when released.