FX Technology tease their upgraded screen for Steam Deck

Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: kokoko3kIt seems the deck has an ips screen, not tn, right?

The Deck has an IPS screen, yes. Which means that off-axis viewing is fine, which wouldn't be the case with a TN screen. But the colour gamut isn't great as far as IPS screens go - less than 100% sRGB. It seems to be one of the "painful" choices Valve made to hit the price point. In actual use, though, it's not that much of an issue: you aren't using it to see skin tones - games make up their own custom colours. If you hold it side-by-side with a good IPS screen you'll see the reds being slightly orange, but solo you'll only notice the high DPI, fast response, and ability to show a good image even at very low brightness, which are admirable traits for a battery-powered gaming appliance. There is space for a Deck with a better screen but the process of replacing it is not a lot of fun. And replacing the screen with one that can't run at an arbitrary refresh rate between 40 & 60 Hz (which the Deck's display can) would be a functional downgrade.

Well, I suppose that an IPS screen still means good color reproducion in the range of the reproducible while still very low gamut.
This ensures good reproduction at low brightness levels, but still, at low brightness having more gamut helps, because saturation is clamped "by design".
Btw, it is not just skin tones. At least for me, the inability to show saturated and vivid colors is a serious issue.
I repeat, my personal and biased opinion, don't shoot me.

Quoting: kokoko3kWell, I suppose that an IPS screen still means good color reproducion in the range of the reproducible while still very low gamut.
This ensures good reproduction at low brightness levels, but still, at low brightness having more gamut helps, because saturation is clamped "by design".
Btw, it is not just skin tones. At least for me, the inability to show saturated and vivid colors is a serious issue.
I repeat, my personal and biased opinion, don't shoot me.

You should endeavour to see one in person, playing games. It's fine, but not great; but you definitely wouldn't want to sacrifice the other aspects of the display I mentioned for a better gamut. Constrained technology like this is all about compromises.

(As a point of comparison, my desktop monitor has very good colour reproduction (Dell UP3017), but I do almost all my gaming on the Deck)

Quoting: CatKillerCan it do the timing tricks that the Deck's screen can do to run at 40 Hz?

That's a big deal. Also, didn't Valve mention that even the physical properties (particularly flexibility) of the screen they chose is integral to the Steam Deck's build?

If it's about price points, may be they should have options for screens same as they have options for storage?

Quoting: elmapuli rather have 800p OLED instead

Seconding this. My Pixel 7 (and Pixel Watch) have AMOLED displays, and it's not bad, I have to say. I'd be open to something like that for the Deck.

Quoting: kokoko3kWow, Is the Deck just 40% AdobeRGB?

Somebody corrects me if I'm wrong, since I'm more pratocal about NTSC and SRGB colorspaces, but it seems AdobeRGB is equivalent to NTSC, and 40% means seriously washed out colors (how does the red looks on the Deck, kinda orange-ish?), more or less the same you find in 300/400 euros laptops; good for office use, but definitely NOT for running games or watching movies, what a shame.

There's also the general public "education" component to consider; where the general market favors an inferior product over a superior one due to high familiarity with the cheap one and a lack of technical knowledge to fully understand why the cheap product is lesser. The differences are seen as faults, because, well it's different and weird.

Good examples are the box wine comparisons and the preference for certain headphones over higher quality options.

I am curious if there was a similar effect for cheap screens.

So, we have body, joysticks and now display. One think for upgreads for deck which we need right now is main board with new CPU. Can some small chinase company buy cpu used in ASUS ROG Ally? :-)

Quoting: kokoko3kWow, Is the Deck just 40% AdobeRGB?

or maybe they are saying to it as marketing material.
the last thing i heard was that deck was ~70% sRGB, not sure how it compare to adobeRGB or wich one is the most correct one, but if the content was designed for the wrong displays anyway, using an color accurate display will improve our experiences... at what cost?

i would be totally ok with a screen that has the same resolution brightness and everything just with no bezel. this is not a tablet idk why there is a need for a bezel. it looks ridiculous and makes the screen smaller for no reason. it could easily be a 8" display.