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With all the new amazing games coming out basically every month, lets not forget some slightly older games worth playing. Like DOOM Eternal, that just removed Denuvo Anti-Tamper.

Finally, right? They already removed Denuvo Anti-Cheat back in 2020 but now Denuvo is entirely gone as of the update released September 5th, 2023. So it should work better than ever, although it already did work quite brilliantly before because it was a very optimised game.

Any form of DRM is bad for consumers, so it's nice to see DOOM Eternal set free of the Denuvo curse.

Want to see how it can run on Steam Deck? Here's a quick chatty video below:

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Seriously, the performance on Steam Deck is really impressive. Probably one of the best looking and performing shooters available to play with Proton on Steam Deck by far.

You can buy yourself a copy on Fanatical and Steam.

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ElectricPrism Sep 6, 2023
I see Denuvo DRM and I close my wallet and pass.

There are Thousands of games I can buy and I already own hundreds.

Good on them for testing that virus trash.
Lanz Sep 7, 2023
I really wish they'd open source the newer id games. They deserve the opportunity for the legacy of the classics.
PublicNuisance Sep 7, 2023
Quoting: Pengling
Quoting: PublicNuisanceA good first step but to get me interested in even a discount purchase they also have to banish the need for a Bethesda.net account.
Oh, is that actually required for this game? At least in the Unity engine ports of Doom and Doom II, you can cancel out of the prompt and it'll never pester you about it again.

From the Steam page for Doom Eternal:

"Requires 3rd-Party Account: Bethesda.net (Supports Linking to Steam Account)"

https://store.steampowered.com/app/782330/DOOM_Eternal/

I don't know if I can opt out but I won't be taking the chance.
Sanaka3 Sep 7, 2023
can't say if it's id who chose to include it in the first place or bethesda strongly suggesting, but ideally they should've learned from rage 2 release (or this drm's reputation)
damarrin Sep 7, 2023
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Quoting: PublicNuisance
Quoting: Pengling
Quoting: PublicNuisanceA good first step but to get me interested in even a discount purchase they also have to banish the need for a Bethesda.net account.
Oh, is that actually required for this game? At least in the Unity engine ports of Doom and Doom II, you can cancel out of the prompt and it'll never pester you about it again.

From the Steam page for Doom Eternal:

"Requires 3rd-Party Account: Bethesda.net (Supports Linking to Steam Account)"

https://store.steampowered.com/app/782330/DOOM_Eternal/

I don't know if I can opt out but I won't be taking the chance.

You have to not have internet when you start the game to bypass the 3-rd party account. It then works fine. Annoying.

I got the game to look at ray traced reflections on SD back when they enabled support. Despite the drm and online account activation it plays very, very well. I'm sure I'll get around to it sometime.


Last edited by damarrin on 7 September 2023 at 5:26 am UTC
poiuz Sep 7, 2023
QuoteAny form of DRM is bad for consumers
True, but I don't get your Denuvo hate. Steam itself is DRM, but you find it fine. And unlike Denuvo, Steam's DRM is much more invasive: it applies to all games - even when the binary itself is DRM free.
rustybroomhandle Sep 7, 2023
Quoting: poiuz
QuoteAny form of DRM is bad for consumers
True, but I don't get your Denuvo hate. Steam itself is DRM, but you find it fine. And unlike Denuvo, Steam's DRM is much more invasive: it applies to all games - even when the binary itself is DRM free.

By that logic, GoG also is DRM because you have to be logged in to download your games. Also, how is that more intrusive than something than Denuvo's requirement of elevated system privileges?
poiuz Sep 7, 2023
Quoting: rustybroomhandleBy that logic, GoG also is DRM because you have to be logged in to download your games.
GOG: No, because GOG only restricts the download of the files. The game files are "free". Multiplayer through GOG Galaxy on the other hand is DRMed, that's true.

Quoting: rustybroomhandleAlso, how is that more intrusive than something than Denuvo's requirement of elevated system privileges?
What can be more intrusive than blocking access to all games in the library?

/edit: Denovo has no elevated system priviliges on Linux, does it?


Last edited by poiuz on 7 September 2023 at 8:37 am UTC
rustybroomhandle Sep 7, 2023
Quoting: poiuz
Quoting: rustybroomhandleBy that logic, GoG also is DRM because you have to be logged in to download your games.
GOG: No, because GOG only restricts the download of the files. The game files are "free". Multiplayer through GOG Galaxy on the other hand is DRMed, that's true.

You should probably read the EULA on GoG games. They are DRM free at a technical level, sure, but you are still legally limited.
poiuz Sep 7, 2023
Quoting: rustybroomhandleYou should probably read the EULA on GoG games. They are DRM free at a technical level, sure, but you are still legally limited.
What has the EULA to do with software to restrict access to your licensed software (commonly known as DRM)?

Instead of starting an unrelated discussion you could just answer my question: What can be more intrusive than blocking access to all games in the library?

/edit: I deliberately put "free" in quotes since I know that they're not without restrictions. "free" specifically refers to DRM-free (i.e. without software/mechanisms that limits access to the game).


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