For those of you who want a stable Linux distribution with the Cinnamon desktop, Linux Mint Debian Edition seems like a nice choice and the latest release is now in Beta. It should be much the same as the normal Linux Mint distribution, but directly based on Debian instead of Ubuntu.
Their goal with it is to ensure Linux Mint could carry on, in the event of something problematic happening with Ubuntu, they say it's "also one of our development targets, to guarantee the software we develop is compatible outside of Ubuntu".
Pictured - LMDE 6 "Faye"
Based upon Debian 12 "Bookworm", it should be a nice upgrade for anyone who was still using LMDE 5. The Mint team don't really go into any detail on what exactly has changed yet, and the release notes are simply going over some known issues. It should be largely the same as the most recent main Linux Mint release like Cinnamon 5.8 desktop, updated apps, an improved look and feel, full support for HEIF and AVIF image files, a resizable main menu, multi-threaded thumbnails for the Nemo file manager and more.
Do you use LMDE? Let us know why in the comments.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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I don't use it but I'm glad it exists, 'cause if odd things happen with Ubuntu I could end up still able to use Mint thanks to its existence.
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slaapliedje Sep 13, 2023
Quoting: Purple Library GuyI don't use it but I'm glad it exists, 'cause if odd things happen with Ubuntu I could end up still able to use Mint thanks to its existence.Or I mean you could just install Debian and pick Cinnamon during install...
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Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: Purple Library GuyI don't use it but I'm glad it exists, 'cause if odd things happen with Ubuntu I could end up still able to use Mint thanks to its existence.Or I mean you could just install Debian and pick Cinnamon during install...
That would be fine if Mint simply slapped a different DE on Ubuntu/Debian and called it a day. Would be a bit silly if they did, don't you think?
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slaapliedje Sep 13, 2023
Quoting: tuubiHonest question; what do they do different that would make me want to switch to Mint DE over just Debian? Debian has a much more flexible installer (still one of the best if you need software raid, or anything funky). These days it's just a matter of install, maybe run 'apt install nvidia-driver' and be done with it. My last few installs (that were non-nvidia) just worked out of the box with all drivers / hardware detected and is rock solid.Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: Purple Library GuyI don't use it but I'm glad it exists, 'cause if odd things happen with Ubuntu I could end up still able to use Mint thanks to its existence.Or I mean you could just install Debian and pick Cinnamon during install...
That would be fine if Mint simply slapped a different DE on Ubuntu/Debian and called it a day. Would be a bit silly if they did, don't you think?
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Quoting: slaapliedjeMaybe you're right, or wrong, I don't know exactly what Mint does or not (but I don't think it's just "that")...Quoting: tuubiHonest question; what do they do different that would make me want to switch to Mint DE over just Debian? Debian has a much more flexible installer (still one of the best if you need software raid, or anything funky). These days it's just a matter of install, maybe run 'apt install nvidia-driver' and be done with it. My last few installs (that were non-nvidia) just worked out of the box with all drivers / hardware detected and is rock solid.Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: Purple Library GuyI don't use it but I'm glad it exists, 'cause if odd things happen with Ubuntu I could end up still able to use Mint thanks to its existence.Or I mean you could just install Debian and pick Cinnamon during install...
That would be fine if Mint simply slapped a different DE on Ubuntu/Debian and called it a day. Would be a bit silly if they did, don't you think?
But the thing you seem to forget is that Purple Library Guy don't like much tech things, as he said about it many times, so I'm sure just install Mint (classic or Debian Edition) is simpler for him than to install Debian.
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slaapliedje Sep 13, 2023
Quoting: CyrilLast time I installed Mint DE, it wasn't much easier than Debian. You can always have Debian just try and figure out a hard drive scheme automatically for you, then just click click, put in username, etc, then reboot. You don't even really need to add any repos anymore with Bookworm, the firmware ones are just added in. I'll convert him one day to the Debian side. :PQuoting: slaapliedjeMaybe you're right, or wrong, I don't know exactly what Mint does or not (but I don't think it's just "that")...Quoting: tuubiHonest question; what do they do different that would make me want to switch to Mint DE over just Debian? Debian has a much more flexible installer (still one of the best if you need software raid, or anything funky). These days it's just a matter of install, maybe run 'apt install nvidia-driver' and be done with it. My last few installs (that were non-nvidia) just worked out of the box with all drivers / hardware detected and is rock solid.Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: Purple Library GuyI don't use it but I'm glad it exists, 'cause if odd things happen with Ubuntu I could end up still able to use Mint thanks to its existence.Or I mean you could just install Debian and pick Cinnamon during install...
That would be fine if Mint simply slapped a different DE on Ubuntu/Debian and called it a day. Would be a bit silly if they did, don't you think?
But the thing you seem to forget is that Purple Library Guy don't like much tech things, as he said about it many times, so I'm sure just install Mint (classic or Debian Edition) is simpler for him than to install Debian.
(edit: made sure to specify Mint Debian Edition opposed to Mint, the Ubuntu based one).
Last edited by slaapliedje on 13 September 2023 at 10:24 pm UTC
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Quoting: CyrilQuoting: slaapliedjeMaybe you're right, or wrong, I don't know exactly what Mint does or not (but I don't think it's just "that")...Quoting: tuubiHonest question; what do they do different that would make me want to switch to Mint DE over just Debian? Debian has a much more flexible installer (still one of the best if you need software raid, or anything funky). These days it's just a matter of install, maybe run 'apt install nvidia-driver' and be done with it. My last few installs (that were non-nvidia) just worked out of the box with all drivers / hardware detected and is rock solid.Quoting: slaapliedjeQuoting: Purple Library GuyI don't use it but I'm glad it exists, 'cause if odd things happen with Ubuntu I could end up still able to use Mint thanks to its existence.Or I mean you could just install Debian and pick Cinnamon during install...
That would be fine if Mint simply slapped a different DE on Ubuntu/Debian and called it a day. Would be a bit silly if they did, don't you think?
But the thing you seem to forget is that Purple Library Guy don't like much tech things, as he said about it many times, so I'm sure just install Mint (classic or Debian Edition) is simpler for him than to install Debian.
It's not just non-techy people who like Mint. I'm a computer nerd since before it was cool, with well over two decades on Linux now, and Mint serves me very well at home and at work. It's a polished distro with an out-of-the-box desktop experience that requires very little tweaking to suit my tastes and use cases.
If that makes you doubt my Linux chops, maybe it helps if I tell you that I ran Gentoo for a couple of years as my daily driver back when it was relatively new and anything but user friendly. Just getting things up and running took a couple of days of bootstrapping, configuring and compiling. Back then, I had fun doing that and I learned a lot in the process.
But these days I have better things to do than fiddle with my systems. You know, like playing games or getting work done. Obviously your mileage may vary. We've all got our preferences and priorities.
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FWIW, Debian does also provide an installer that gives you Cinnamon as a desktop by default. It's provided by the Live Install images.
These uses the Calamares installer which might be a bit easier for beginners?
These uses the Calamares installer which might be a bit easier for beginners?
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slaapliedje Sep 13, 2023
Quoting: tuubiIf that makes you doubt my Linux chops, maybe it helps if I tell you that I ran Gentoo for a couple of years as my daily driver back when it was relatively new and anything but user friendly. Just getting things up and running took a couple of days of bootstrapping, configuring and compiling. Back then, I had fun doing that and I learned a lot in the process.This doesn't mean you know Linux, just means you're a sadist.
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slaapliedje Sep 13, 2023
Quoting: whizseFWIW, Debian does also provide an installer that gives you Cinnamon as a desktop by default. It's provided by the Live Install images.Yeah, I probably should have also mentioned the LiveCDs that literally use the same (or extremely similar) installer that most generic Distros use these days. Thanks for that! I use them to repair systems, generally.
These uses the Calamares installer which might be a bit easier for beginners?
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