KDE Plasma 6.0 now scheduled for release 28th February 2024

Already tried a development version about a week ago and it is surprisingly useful and not as bugy as expected. Really looking forward to it. Maybe around NY holidays I will switch again to using beta/development version to help out with hunting and fixing the remaining bugs and make it even better for the official release.

Fingers crossed it will come too late to be included in Kubuntu 24.04 LTS. I had nothing against new things, but in my past experience, big new versions of KDE are to buggy to be used on a production system, and the last thing a LTS release needs is bleeding edge software.

Quoting: M@GOidFingers crossed it will come too late to be included in Kubuntu 24.04 LTS. I had nothing against new things, but in my past experience, big new versions of KDE are to buggy to be used on a production system, and the last thing a LTS release needs is bleeding edge software.

Conversely, if they don't put Plasma 6 into the LTS, the "desirability" of that LTS decreases significantly outside of hard production environments. Also, the older environment becomes a chain around the Kubuntu team's neck as they're still putting out fires on Plasma 5 five years after everyone has jumped onto Plasma 6 (or seven, by the end of that LTS's life).

I'm on the Kubuntu right now and if there isn't a simple way to get Plasma 6 on there, I'll be jumping distro. Again. Argh!!

It's great to see progress, and have some dates[1].

[1] As in release time.

I'm here using plasma wayland by default as well, so VERY excited for this release to see all the wonderful improvements.

I'm using Kubuntu 23.04 (23.10 upgrade hasn't dropped yet). I'm glad that Plasma will be defaulting to Wayland, as I've found it to work very well in 5.27.

I know that Garuda has a Plasma 6 chaotic-aur repo, but I'm waiting because I want ALL the changes together, so that it feels more impressive. I love Plasma, but Plasma 5.27 is good, man. Like, really good. Besides, I'd rather just do the update for my dotfiles once than three times.

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: M@GOidFingers crossed it will come too late to be included in Kubuntu 24.04 LTS. I had nothing against new things, but in my past experience, big new versions of KDE are to buggy to be used on a production system, and the last thing a LTS release needs is bleeding edge software.

Conversely, if they don't put Plasma 6 into the LTS, the "desirability" of that LTS decreases significantly outside of hard production environments. Also, the older environment becomes a chain around the Kubuntu team's neck as they're still putting out fires on Plasma 5 five years after everyone has jumped onto Plasma 6 (or seven, by the end of that LTS's life).

I'm on the Kubuntu right now and if there isn't a simple way to get Plasma 6 on there, I'll be jumping distro. Again. Argh!!

Outside of hard production environments there is not much reason to use fixed release distributions anyway. LTS are made specifically for long term productions. If you want new stuff, hop on a rolling distribution.

I use LTS, with PPAs for updates because I don't want to update my OS every 8 months. Works pretty well. Rolling distos are pretty cool for new stuff, but you get reams of updates every day which is a bit tedious. Also, when large upgrades happen, such as the move from one version of python to another, you often get breakage which is a pain to handle in rolling distros.

Honestly, I haven't found the "perfect" model yet.

Quoting: scaine

Quoting: M@GOidFingers crossed it will come too late to be included in Kubuntu 24.04 LTS. I had nothing against new things, but in my past experience, big new versions of KDE are to buggy to be used on a production system, and the last thing a LTS release needs is bleeding edge software.

Conversely, if they don't put Plasma 6 into the LTS, the "desirability" of that LTS decreases significantly outside of hard production environments. Also, the older environment becomes a chain around the Kubuntu team's neck as they're still putting out fires on Plasma 5 five years after everyone has jumped onto Plasma 6 (or seven, by the end of that LTS's life).

I'm on the Kubuntu right now and if there isn't a simple way to get Plasma 6 on there, I'll be jumping distro. Again. Argh!!

I don't know about you, but the transition from 3 to 4 and 4 to 5 are still fresh in my memory. Not fun times. Very few people test bleeding edge software, and is only when released to the masses that a truckload of bugs appear. Right now KDE is at its peak stability and functionality, and trading that for a bigger number version with reduced stability and functionality is a bad deal in my book.

If you like KDE fresh, there is KDE Neon, that is based in the latest Kubuntu LTS but with up-to-date KDE versions, no PPA needed.

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Quoting: M@GOidFingers crossed it will come too late to be included in Kubuntu 24.04 LTS. I had nothing against new things, but in my past experience, big new versions of KDE are to buggy to be used on a production system, and the last thing a LTS release needs is bleeding edge software.

Conversely, if they don't put Plasma 6 into the LTS, the "desirability" of that LTS decreases significantly outside of hard production environments. Also, the older environment becomes a chain around the Kubuntu team's neck as they're still putting out fires on Plasma 5 five years after everyone has jumped onto Plasma 6 (or seven, by the end of that LTS's life).

I'm on the Kubuntu right now and if there isn't a simple way to get Plasma 6 on there, I'll be jumping distro. Again. Argh!!

Outside of hard production environments there is not much reason to use fixed release distributions anyway. LTS are made specifically for long term productions. If you want new stuff, hop on a rolling distribution.

I use LTS, with PPAs for updates because I don't want to update my OS every 8 months. Works pretty well. Rolling distos are pretty cool for new stuff, but you get reams of updates every day which is a bit tedious. Also, when large upgrades happen, such as the move from one version of python to another, you often get breakage which is a pain to handle in rolling distros.

Honestly, I haven't found the "perfect" model yet.

Manjaro gets updates every few weeks, which is totally not tedious.

You know, as I replied earlier, I actually thought of Manjaro. But the dev team behind that distro has faced a few controversies in the past. Then, on the two occasions I tried it anyway, I ran into heaps of little issues. It was death by papercut. It obviously works for a heap of folk, given that it's the third-most popular distro on the GOL stats. But it's not for me.

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Quoting: scaine

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Quoting: scaine

Quoting: M@GOidFingers crossed it will come too late to be included in Kubuntu 24.04 LTS. I had nothing against new things, but in my past experience, big new versions of KDE are to buggy to be used on a production system, and the last thing a LTS release needs is bleeding edge software.

Conversely, if they don't put Plasma 6 into the LTS, the "desirability" of that LTS decreases significantly outside of hard production environments. Also, the older environment becomes a chain around the Kubuntu team's neck as they're still putting out fires on Plasma 5 five years after everyone has jumped onto Plasma 6 (or seven, by the end of that LTS's life).

I'm on the Kubuntu right now and if there isn't a simple way to get Plasma 6 on there, I'll be jumping distro. Again. Argh!!

Outside of hard production environments there is not much reason to use fixed release distributions anyway. LTS are made specifically for long term productions. If you want new stuff, hop on a rolling distribution.

I use LTS, with PPAs for updates because I don't want to update my OS every 8 months. Works pretty well. Rolling distos are pretty cool for new stuff, but you get reams of updates every day which is a bit tedious. Also, when large upgrades happen, such as the move from one version of python to another, you often get breakage which is a pain to handle in rolling distros.

Honestly, I haven't found the "perfect" model yet.

Manjaro gets updates every few weeks, which is totally not tedious.

You know, as I replied earlier, I actually thought of Manjaro. But the dev team behind that distro has faced a few controversies in the past. Then, on the two occasions I tried it anyway, I ran into heaps of little issues. It was death by papercut. It obviously works for a heap of folk, given that it's the third-most popular distro on the GOL stats. But it's not for me.

To be honest, rolling is great for people who want that. But there's zero reason to shun versioned distros. Particularly if that's what someone wants from their OS.

FOSS is about freedom, part of that freedom is freedom of choice. So go ahead and continue using whatever distro you enjoy, because if it does the job and fits you well, then to be realistic there's very little reason to change it :-).


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Quoting: M@GOid...

Conversely, if they don't put Plasma 6 into the LTS, the "desirability" of that LTS decreases significantly outside of hard production environments. Also, the older environment becomes a chain around the Kubuntu team's neck as they're still putting out fires on Plasma 5 five years after everyone has jumped onto Plasma 6 (or seven, by the end of that LTS's life).

I'm on the Kubuntu right now and if there isn't a simple way to get Plasma 6 on there, I'll be jumping distro. Again. Argh!!

Use KDE Neon then.

Quoting: Liam DaweI'm keen to see all the Wayland improvements since I'm running the Plasma Wayland session by default now.

You run AMD stuff these days, right? Do you ever suspend your system? I have a couple terribly annoying problems with suspend that only occur when I have a Wayland session.