Ubuntu 23.10 download got pulled down due to a malicious translation

What I could find was bad, but bad from the mind of a minor. Also, the language thing had me confused. I saw UK, and I thought, that's not it, it must be .UA .
Nevertheless it's good they retracted this.
It's also good to realize that opensource means open traceability and finding of bad intentions.

Reading it was in the ukrainian translation I expected some light hearted dehumanisation like https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/using-a-steam-deck-to-control-a-ukrainian-automatic-turret-now-ive-seen-it-all/comment_id=242754 but it actually isn't.

It's "generic" Gay and Jew/Israel hate.

And with generic I don't want to downplay, I use it here in the sense that it's not referencing any current event.


Last edited by Matombo on 13 October 2023 at 11:46 am UTC

Git history and discussion there shows, that those malicious translations were added by a russian, who work(ed) at Canonical office in San Francisco. He's been fired, and may face deportation to motherland.

Ugh, bigotry is disgusting period. I'm really glad that they dealt with this swiftly.

Quoting: kroitusGit history and discussion there shows, that those malicious translations were added by a russian, who work(ed) at Canonical office in San Francisco. He's been fired, and may face deportation to motherland.

Please, let's not draw such far-reaching conclusions, this is not the place for politics.
The guy you're talking about actually works for Canonical, but if you check git - he deleted the entire Ukrainian translation while waiting for it to be corrected. He is not responsible for anti-Semitic and offensive content. He only removed it.
The man who did this has already deleted his github account, but traces remain. For a long time he has been a social translator of various Linux projects into Ukrainian, among others for system76. His nationality is unknown.

You see folks, this is why you don't drink and github.

And this is why I'm always a little dubious when companies ask for crowdsourced translations and don't even hire professional reviewers. It's hard enough to ascertain you're getting quality work from professionals in a language you can't even read, but there's really nothing stopping random schmoes from pulling stunts like these if you don't even check.

Quoting: SalvatosAnd this is why I'm always a little dubious when companies ask for crowdsourced translations and don't even hire professional reviewers. It's hard enough to ascertain you're getting quality work from professionals in a language you can't even read, but there's really nothing stopping random schmoes from pulling stunts like these if you don't even check.

I was taking part in the crowd sourced translation of Wasteland 2 to German, and while I didn't see something malicious, the result was so bad that I ended up (content spoiled of course and) playing the game in English. There was especially one person which was very diligent, but not very good at it.

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: SalvatosAnd this is why I'm always a little dubious when companies ask for crowdsourced translations and don't even hire professional reviewers. It's hard enough to ascertain you're getting quality work from professionals in a language you can't even read, but there's really nothing stopping random schmoes from pulling stunts like these if you don't even check.

I was taking part in the crowd sourced translation of Wasteland 2 to German, and while I didn't see something malicious, the result was so bad that I ended up (content spoiled of course and) playing the game in English. There was especially one person which was very diligent, but not very good at it.

Small world, I was part of the French team :) If I remember correctly, we had an actual reviewer or at least coordinator overseeing things, plus we had good communication among the translators, so even though I didn't agree with every term we chose, everything contentious was talked through and we reviewed each other’s work, so it was a decent process overall. I never checked the end result in play, though.

Your mention of "very diligent, but not very good at it" reminds me of some things I’ve seen on the Linux Mint Launchpad. Clément Lefebvre (lead developer) is a French speaker, so of course a lot of the French strings for the project come directly from him. Sometimes I see that other people have gone through and changed his translations to other interpretations of strings that could mean something different out of context - but of course he knew the context he was writing for and the replacements are totally inadequate.

It’s sad but true: when you accept everybody’s help, sometimes you’ll get contributions that aren’t really as helpful ;)

Quoting: SalvatosIt’s sad but true: when you accept everybody’s help, sometimes you’ll get contributions that aren’t really as helpful ;)

Unfortunately, translation platforms like Weblate generally lack a way to organize translators in a way that they are always reachable. You could have a separate chat platform, but this isn't the best way to ensure contributors are reachable even years after they've contributed to the project.