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Good news for those looking to download Ubuntu Desktop 23.10, as the recent issue involving a hostile translation has been solved and so the downloads are up again.

Canonical have put out a fresh build of Ubuntu 23.10 and Ubuntu Budgie 23.10 with a fresh Ukrainian translation, which is the one that was hit with some pretty offensive stuff in it. In their updated announcement post Canonical stated "Going forward we will be drafting new safeguards around translation moderation in Ubuntu Desktop. We will share the outcome of these discussions once they are refined.".

Nothing else has changed, it's the same Ubuntu 23.10 release announced recently but with the installer translation issue solved.

Hopefully this won't happen again. Real shame it happened in the first place though. Unfortunately, some people will target anything for abuse, even open source projects to spread hate.

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TheSHEEEP Oct 17, 2023
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At first I assumed they were playing the typical 'milquetoast opinion is "hatespeech"' game, as corporations afraid of X-Storms tend to do.

But I had a look at what was there and... uhh... yeah, even I would have removed that
A mix of slavic memes (I assume) and relentless insult rants.
Hilariously edgelordy, but not really something you want in official products.


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Liam Dawe Oct 17, 2023
Quoting: TheSHEEEPHilariously edgelordy, but not really something you want in official products.
I looked over all of it, and it was not some silly edgelord stuff. It was just downright disgusting.
TheSHEEEP Oct 17, 2023
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Quoting: Liam Dawe
Quoting: TheSHEEEPHilariously edgelordy, but not really something you want in official products.
I looked over all of it, and it was not some silly edgelord stuff. It was just downright disgusting.
Well, let's just say not all of us are easily disgusted and have a bit thicker skin.
Honestly, I was quite entertained by the sheer insanity of it.

It reminded me of that Domina developer meltdown in the patch notes, except in Ukrainian (or at least Google thinks so).


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Liam Dawe Oct 17, 2023
Quoting: TheSHEEEPWell, let's just say not all of us are easily disgusted and have a bit thicker skin.
It's nothing to do with having a "thick skin" and that's really downplaying how gross it was. I'm genuinely surprised and disappointed anyone could find what they did in any way entertaining.
Linux_Rocks Oct 17, 2023
Fuck bigotry period. That's it, end of story. It's not even remotely someone trying to be comedic. So there's nothing funny about it.
Linux_Rocks Oct 17, 2023
Also, corporations being PC or inclusive cause it's good for business is annoyingly fake. But it's better than the other options.
slaapliedje Oct 17, 2023
Quoting: Linux_RocksAlso, corporations being PC or inclusive cause it's good for business is annoyingly fake. But it's better than the other options.
Yeah, for me it's just bigotry in the other direction. Instead of Corps asking people to stop being bigots, they're asking you to put other types of people on pedestals. Which is still bigotry, because certain other types of people are not put on those pedestals.
TheSHEEEP Oct 17, 2023
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Quoting: Liam DaweI'm genuinely surprised and disappointed anyone could find what they did in any way entertaining.
I generally find people having absurd meltdown-style rants funny, independent of the exact nature or direction of their ranting.
Sue me. Or don't. I don't care in the slightest what you personally think of me. I'm not here to seek your approval, admin or not.

Quoting: Linux_RocksIt's not even remotely someone trying to be comedic. So there's nothing funny about it.
1. Wrong. It is actively trying to be funny, hence all the rather edgelordy "jokes".
2. You don't have to actively try to be funny in order to have the result be funny to other people.
3. You don't get to decide what is or isn't funny to other people about... anything, really.


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ObsidianBlk Oct 17, 2023
Quoting: slaapliedje
Quoting: Linux_RocksAlso, corporations being PC or inclusive cause it's good for business is annoyingly fake. But it's better than the other options.
Yeah, for me it's just bigotry in the other direction. Instead of Corps asking people to stop being bigots, they're asking you to put other types of people on pedestals. Which is still bigotry, because certain other types of people are not put on those pedestals.

Whether a company's display of support is genuine or self serving is a matter of debate. However, showing support for a group that has been treated (at best) less than acceptably in a historical context is not "bigotry in the other direction". At this point, as a society, it's not enough to *quietly* say "we accept you" because, like with any relationship, you do actually have to *say* it to that person. You have to let them *know*, unambiguously, that, yes, they matter and they're accepted. Maybe, on a societal level, that means, at the very least, they get a market display, or a few characters taking the spotlight in a show or movie, or they get to parade down main street. Maybe it's time those groups get a bit of the spotlight and the respect they deserve. There's plenty to go around
Linux_Rocks Oct 17, 2023
I always try to view things in context, or go off of who is saying what or joking about something to decide if something is funny or not. If it's toxic, then it's not funny, and it becomes serious. This was clearly toxic, so it's clearly not funny. Whether or not someone think it's funny is irrelevant to me. Furthermore, what reactionaries, bigots, or apologists to bigotry think is equally irrelevant.

I'm sure the comments section is about to become a shitstorm. So have fun with that. It's a damn shame that it's even a "debate" at all.


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