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PayPalFinally. All the pieces are coming together for Wayland to truly be the actual future for Linux, even Linux Mint are now moving forward with it in their Cinnamon desktop.
News comes from their October 2023 overview post, which amongst other things, gave a mention of their new Wayland work. Mint's Clem notes work has "started on Wayland" and that it is "one of the major challenges our project had to tackle in the mid to long term". They have Cinnamon running on Wayland now too as shown in their screenshot:
Something to keep in mind though is with the Linux Mint 21.3 release coming it won't be the default session, and they don't expect it to be the default any time soon but they want it to finally be ready and so it will be included as an experimental option that you'll be able to pick from the login screen.
They've set up a Trello board you can follow on the progress and they don't think Wayland will be fully ready before 2026 so they're giving themselves two years to identify and fix up all the issues as they continue working on it.
Linux Mint 21.3 is due to release around Christmas time / late December 2023.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
Quoting: ShmerlStarting on Wayland is good, but judging by how long it took KDE Plasma to get to decent state, it will probably be a long road. Still nice to see some progress.Clem said something like 2 years somewhere on the post or the comments.
Last edited by Marlock on 2 November 2023 at 12:53 am UTC
Quoting: MarlockClem said something like 2 years somewhere on the post or the comments.
I think KDE developers underestimated it by a lot, so it likely means more.
Quoting: MarlockQuoting: pleasereadthemanualI wonder how they will implement screen capture permissions. Every compositor seems to do it differently. I like GNOME's implementation the most; loudly indicating when the screen is being captured in the top right.
this might prove useful:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/xwayland-video-bridge-created-to-improve-linux-screen-sharing/
In my experience with Fedora KDE, it used to work sometimes with the videobridge, but with 39, video sharing works flawlessly on Wayland.
Quoting: ShmerlQuoting: MarlockClem said something like 2 years somewhere on the post or the comments.
I think KDE developers underestimated it by a lot, so it likely means more.
I mean, KDE and Gnome (mostly Gnome) were the torchbearers of Wayland, so a lot of things needed to be implemented for the first time or even necesitated a new Wayland extention. Now that that work is nearing the end, Linux Mint can piggy back of of a lot of work from Gnome (see Marlocks comment) and look at other programs as an example, so it should be way less work.
Quoting: AdutchmanI mean, KDE and Gnome (mostly Gnome) were the torchbearers of Wayland, so a lot of things needed to be implemented for the first time or even necesitated a new Wayland extention. Now that that work is nearing the end, Linux Mint can piggy back of of a lot of work from Gnome (see Marlocks comment) and look at other programs as an example, so it should be way less work.
Exactly this. GNOME were around before per-window screen capture was viable on Wayland. KDE had to push for (with support from Valve) fractional scaling and tearing extensions. GNOME, KDE, and Valve are also making big developments in the realm of proofing out colour management and HDR on Wayland, as well as VRR.
Wayland today is much different than it was 2 or 3 years ago, and is continuing to get the extensions that once received vehement pushback (such as fractional scaling). The work that GNOME and KDE have done have, for the most part, matured Wayland to a point where other desktops can now comfortably see their future on Wayland. We also shouldn't forget the excellent Wayland compositors such as Hyprland which proofed out Wayland-only applications as viable, and less relevant for GTK/Qt-based desktops, wlroots which provides common code to develop a Wayland compositor from.
The point I'm making is, Wayland isn't as much of an unknown as it was 2 years ago, thanks to the work of many to bring it up to scratch where there is no longer need for private protocols, and work can now begin on porting desktops, because the trail has been blazed by others willing to spend the last 5+ years pushing for improvements to Wayland.
Edgarins29 Dec 6, 2023
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