Remember SiN? The classic shooter from Ritual Entertainment released in 1998? Well there's a new updated port of it for modern systems. Developer Rohit emailed about it to mention the release on itch.io and their CoHost blog about the work involved that's worth a read.
The thing is, Night Dive Studios did put out SiN: Gold, and they're working on SiN Reloaded but there's no hint at a release date for that yet. Rohit mentions that "While SiN Gold is a pretty decent way to play the game, it still has a few pain points that could really use some smoothing over" and so they put on their coding socks and made Dominatrix.
Some of the new features include:
- A new Linux port.
- Better resolution support.
- Controller Support.
- Weapon radial menu.
- Gamepad-friendly virtual keyboard.
- Better menu/interface scaling.
It's also been added to the Luxtorpeda, to enable you to easily run it from Steam. See more on Luxtorpeda here.
You do need the original data files to play it which you can grab from GOG or Steam.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: gbudnyI hope that is a legal thing because I don't want to see it removed:The source code was not leaked but published by Jim Dosé the co-founder of Ritual Entertainment. However it was not a FLOSS release. Every file carries this warning:
"This source is may not be distributed and/or modified without expressly written permission by Ritual Entertainment, Inc."
So legally pretty sketchy.
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Quoting: MnolegQuoting: gbudnyI still have the CD with the Linux version of Sin.
I played it on Ubuntu 20.4 with padsp.
I did the same on Fedora a few years ago and it was a terrible experience. It was probably a problem particular to my setup however. The game ran faster than normal but with constant chopping. The worst motion sickness I can remember.
I didn't have this issue with the old Intel Xeon processor, but you probably have more modern hardware.
I didn't expect it could happen with games that use Quake engines.
Quoting: whizseQuoting: gbudnyI hope that is a legal thing because I don't want to see it removed:The source code was not leaked but published by Jim Dosé the co-founder of Ritual Entertainment. However it was not a FLOSS release. Every file carries this warning:
"This source is may not be distributed and/or modified without expressly written permission by Ritual Entertainment, Inc."
So legally pretty sketchy.
Jim Dosé is a well-known person, so it probably makes more acceptable.
At least, we can find out what happened in the other missions of Sin.
I didn't like the ending of the base game.
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Maybe you should mention that Rohit created an installer for the Linux and Windows versions of Sin.
It's amazing when I think how much money and time companies invested in porting and publishing games for Linux over 20 years ago.
Hyperion ported all these games for Linux
Gorky 17 (Linux x86/PPC)
Sin (Linux x86/PPC)
Shogo (Linux x86)
Titan computer was a German company specializing in publishing games for Linux, Mac, Amiga, and so on. They published Shogo, Sin, and Jagged Alliance 2 for Linux.
In 2000 Titan Computer wanted to publish Majesty for Linux. We know that later, Mathieu Pinard from Tribsoft decided to help LGP in releasing Majesty to Linux x86/PPC. Similarly, Titan Computer was interested in releasing Gorky 17 for Linux. However, Hyperion decided to spend a few years porting Gorky 17 to Linux x86/PPC with a Linux team of Michael Simms.
https://web.archive.org/web/20041207053221/http://www.titan-computer.com/linux/index.html
27.Sep 2000 Titan Computer licences Majesty from Cyberlore Studios
11.June 2000 Titan signs Gorky17 from Topware
There was a chance that Titan computer could become so well-known like Loki, LGP, Runesoft, or even Alternative Games.
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Quoting: gbudnyI think the issue is that many users treat Linux with Proton as a replacement for Windows. The current situation with games for Linux is different now than it was before 2010. On the other hand, I have treated this system since 2004 as something "terrible" that frequently amazes me when I can run some great games on it.
Linux is something better than many other versions of Unix, but it is very similar to them.
I think you're missing the point that for many of us users, Linux is a full replacement for Windows
.I have been using Linux exclusively for many years now, even before the mainstream gaming companies started supporting Linux. There was a time where gaming was near non-existent on Linux. I still used my computers with no Windows at that time too.
I haven't used Windows as my primary OS since Windows XP, and frankly I have no intention of going back. My personal computers, and my business computers, servers don't need nor use windows.
In this day and age, it's realistically not required for many of us.
With that said, I don't treat Linux as "something terrible" as for me, it works and it works well. It fits me like a glove.
(I am however a more "extreme" case. If Valve or any other company started pushing for too much control over my Linux system I would give up gaming again and go back to purely FOSS.)
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Quoting: BlackBloodRumIf Valve or any other company started pushing for too much control over my Linux system I would give up gaming again and go back to purely FOSS.Yeah, I'd go back to console-gaming if that happened, as much as I don't like the idea. I've never seen Linux + Proton as some sort of replacement for Windows or MacOS, though - Proton is just a format-shifting tool, like how we have emulators and engine source-ports on Linux, too, but I started out using Linux with no gaming on it whatsoever.
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Quoting: BlackBloodRumI think you're missing the point that for many of us users, Linux is a full replacement for Windows
BSD/Solaris with Wine, Linux with Wine/Proton, and macOS with CrossOver won't replace Windows. You turn off the emulator, and you have to deal with the Unix-like operating system.
Users don't have a full replacement for Windows 9x/NT - It's hard to recommend ReactOS. I can say that FreeDOS could replace DOS, and ArcaOS is the great alternative for Windows 3.1.
Quoting: BlackBloodRumI have been using Linux exclusively for many years now, even before the mainstream gaming companies started supporting Linux. There was a time where gaming was near non-existent on Linux. I still used my computers with no Windows at that time too.
I can say that gaming was nearly non-existent before 1998, when Linux users had a few commercial games.
Quoting: BlackBloodRumWith that said, I don't treat Linux as "something terrible" as for me, it works and it works well. It fits me like a glove.
I have low expecations about Linux. You can easily find hardware that doesn't support Linux or barely works. I don't blame Linux, but it can't replace Windows in this area. However, I can avoid buying problematic hardware if I use Linux, which can give me a better experience.
Similarly, Linux has many applications and games that we can use. We can accept them with all the issues or jealously look at Windows versions.
We overestimate Linux with Wine/Proton as a replacement for Windows. Users are smart enough to notice that they have higher expectations than even the playable state of a game for Windows.
It's just terrible marketing for Linux, and people shouldn't promote it in this way.
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Quoting: gbudnyBSD/Solaris with Wine, Linux with Wine/Proton, and macOS with CrossOver won't replace Windows. You turn off the emulator, and you have to deal with the Unix-like operating system.I'm not totally clear what you're talking about, but you do realize that most Linux distributions use their own graphical desktop environments, right? Like, Gnome and KDE and Cinnamon and Mate and such aren't things that require emulation. I hardly use Proton, don't ever use any other form of emulation, and I pretty much never experience anything about my Linux desktop that is particularly "Unix-like".
You could say that well, yeah, but somewhere under the hood there is something "Unix-like", but that's true of MacOS as well, and in both cases pretty much irrelevant to the user experience.
It's true that there are some issues with hardware/software support, but these days they're minor. Overall, IMO whether you're talking about hardware, general software ecosystem or games, back in the day it was like you would constantly run into problems getting in your way; now you practically have to go looking for problems before you can find any. Unless you're a professional who depends on Adobe stuff.
As to the general user experience . . . Linux is way, way better than Windows now. Really, there's no comparison. Windows is annoying nagware that constantly bitches at you for no particular reason and its interface is neither as cool as KDE, as slick as Gnome, nor as comfortable as Cinnamon or Mate. It lacks various useful features (no tabs in the file manager is a pain in the ass), is crap at updating the OS, doesn't really update the rest of your software at all . . . at this point the only feature I can think of in Windows that I miss when I'm not at work is the way it's really easy to change file names.
Quoting: gbudnyIt's just terrible marketing for Linux, and people shouldn't promote it in this way.Uhhh . . . I see. Of course. From now on I'll market Linux by being like you and claiming it totally sucks.
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Quoting: gbudnySimilarly, Linux has many applications and games that we can use. We can accept them with all the issues or jealously look at Windows versions.Or we can use all of the format-shifting tools at our disposal alongside native content, and appreciate how we've actually got more options than Windows and MacOS.
Quoting: gbudnyWe overestimate Linux with Wine/Proton as a replacement for Windows.I haven't seen anybody around here do so, and everyday people don't actually look at it that way, anyway. For most people, it's just about getting things done and having it work, regardless of how. They're not looking for a replacement for something that they're actively trying to get rid of - they're looking for a way to preserve workflow and move that into a different environment.
I'm currently helping someone look into moving some (non-gaming) tasks over to Linux in order to move away from MacOS, and I can say from experience (and I'm sure that others here have similar tales) that the first question you'll get asked in a case like this is if there's any way to keep using what's already in place via some sort of tool. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Quoting: whizseWell, I wouldn't recommend it, but negging does seem to work for some people.
Quoting: Purple Library GuyUgh.I'd never heard of that until now, and now I wish that I hadn't.
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Quoting: Purple Library Guyat this point the only feature I can think of in Windows that I miss when I'm not at work is the way it's really easy to change file names.
Windows makes it even easier than selecting a file and hitting F2? Or (at least in Thunar, Xfce's file manager) selecting multiple files and hitting F2 to rename them all using anything from simple replacement to regular expressions and audio tags. If it was any easier, I bet I'd be doing it accidentally all the time.
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