Fedora Linux 39 is out now with GNOME 45, Linux kernel 6.5

Actually I'm afraid to update. Wacom tablet support on Gnome Wayland is not yet there due to smaller issues like cursor doesn't become visible or clicks not being registered. On the other hand Wacom on X11 stills works nicely but broke horribly with the last two major Gnome releases and several minor releases were needed to get those regression fixed

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/3120 for example worries me.


Last edited by jens on 8 November 2023 at 6:32 pm UTC

Tried Fedora in a VM with Gnome.
Gnome is really really poor if you are used to KDE and Windows GUI.
But if you only want to start one program and work with it, it is enough.

Quoting: Solitary

Quoting: pete910Could have squeezed kernel 6.6 in

This isn't Ubuntu, there is no reason to squeeze in a specific kernel version. Fedora has rolling kernel version, so soon enough 6.6 will be in the updates for Fedora 39 and Fedora 38 too, and kernel 6.7 after that, etc... until the distro goes EOL in 13 months.

That did a flyby on you I guess!

Quoting: einherjarBut if you only want to start one program and work with it, it is enough.

Darn, and here I thought I've been using many apps at a time across monitors/desktops with ease.

I swear, people just make up random things to dunk on desktops they don't use like it's some kind of war.

Question you anyone....I am new to Linux; have been using Mint for 1 month. Will this kernel update support AMD Turbo Boost on their CPU's ? My Ryzen 5 5600X can turbo up to 4.6 from 3.7. In various articles I heard the often used kernels (5.,something) do not turbo up the CPU at all. Thanks.

Quoting: jensActually I'm afraid to update. Wacom tablet support on Gnome Wayland is not yet there due to smaller issues like cursor doesn't become visible or clicks not being registered. On the other hand Wacom on X11 stills works nicely but broke horribly with the last two major Gnome releases and several minor releases were needed to get those regression fixed

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/3120 for example worries me.

And that kind of stuff is why people like me prefer LTS distros. I can understand some have a real need to be on the bleeding edge, but others need stability to get work done.

Quoting: M@GOid

Quoting: jensActually I'm afraid to update. Wacom tablet support on Gnome Wayland is not yet there due to smaller issues like cursor doesn't become visible or clicks not being registered. On the other hand Wacom on X11 stills works nicely but broke horribly with the last two major Gnome releases and several minor releases were needed to get those regression fixed

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/3120 for example worries me.

And that kind of stuff is why people like me prefer LTS distros. I can understand some have a real need to be on the bleeding edge, but others need stability to get work done.

Yes, my work machine runs Ubuntu LTS, exactly to always be able to get work done ;)

To be fair, it wasn’t always like this. Usually Fedora updates were quite smooth for me with just the occasional hiccup (e.g. nvidia fbcon vs simpledrm). Only lately X11 really starts to decay. One the plus side that hopefully really brings the last Wayland glitches for non standard setups in the spotlight.

Quoting: RenardDesMersUpgraded yesterday without any issue. I didn't see a lot of change except for the pill on the top left and my extensions being broken until they update (I hate Gnome for doing that again and again)

Same. This case is kinda justified though. The GJS was really in dire need of upgrades to allow developers to write extensions in a more modern way. This was really a royal pain in the neck and I appreciate any improvements on this side.

The changes are breaking but not very complex. It's mostly rewriting the way extensions include other files. There are however many extensions dead in the water that will probably never get the required updates, as usual. Most really are a one dev show and when the dev goes on hiatus we end up with this kind of situation.

Here is hope that this will not happen that often any more. Especially since there are now plenty of resources for new devs to get into GNOME extensions development, which was not always the case.

Done upgrading both of my Universal Blue devices to a Fedora 39-based images (ublue-os Kinoite on my laptop, Bazzite on my PC). Seems fine, doesn't look like there's any big issue. Only issue I had was some packages getting their names changed, requiring me to look up the new names to put in my recipe.yml files.